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[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2002754092125544909

 

[Exstatic]

WTF?

 

[BacktoBasics]

Do I get a fucking refund.

If this still includes league pass blackouts I’m gonna be pissed. League pass is useless in Corpus Christi.

 

[Exstatic]

Is league pass only available on wired cable?

 

[ace3g]

Is league pass only available on wired cable?

No, my brother in NY got the league pass app this year to watch Spurs games.

 

[Trainwreck2100]

I wonder if Amazon is gonna swoop in for pennies on the dollar, the whole reason Sinclair couldn't afford the bill was because they were going up against them. I can't believe it's still owned by sinclair after the bally's fiasco.

 

[CGD]

Is league pass only available on wired cable?

No i rely on it where I live, and run it through Amazon. Which is nice as Amazon expands its own offerings.

 

[dastexan]

As said, do i get a half season fucking refund then? Been waiting for this to go bankrupt for a couple of years. Good riddance.

 

[spurraider21]

I use league pass through the app when on my phone/tv or just directly on nba.com when on a computer

 

[scott]

If you have a League Pass sub, you can use it a variety of ways. I use it on a computer via WebBrowser, on a TV via the NBA app (on Roku), on my iPhone or iPad via the NBA app, etc. It’s the greatest when you live far far away from your favorite team. Have had it since I moved away from SA in 2019.

 

[BacktoBasics]

If you have a League Pass sub, you can use it a variety of ways. I use it on a computer via WebBrowser, on a TV via the NBA app (on Roku), on my iPhone or iPad via the NBA app, etc. It’s the greatest when you live far far away from your favorite team. Have had it since I moved away from SA in 2019.

For he record I do like league pass and use Roku but for me Corpus is considered in market so even 150 miles away I’m blacked out.

Our local affiliates get 2-3 games a year. So it’s useless to me as far as the Spurs go.

The whole thing is so ridiculous. FDSW is an okay solution but we need a full service system that is accessible by all users outside SA proper.

I tried using a VPN to get around it but my other streaming services read that. Like Hulu etc and then I have to reset my location every time. So pointless.

 

[scott]

For he record I do like league pass and use Roku but for me Corpus is considered in market so even 150 miles away I’m blacked out.

Our local affiliates get 2-3 games a year. So it’s useless to me as far as the Spurs go.

The whole thing is so ridiculous. FDSW is an okay solution but we need a full service system that is accessible by all users outside SA proper.

I tried using a VPN to get around it but my other streaming services read that. Like Hulu etc and then I have to reset my location every time. So pointless.

Yeah, I hate the way the NBA decides home markets.

Pretty much all CA teams are considered "home markets" and blacked out for us 2500 miles away in HI!!! Luckily the channels (I don't remember what they are called) that show GSW and SAC games I can get on YouTubeTV, but the LA channels are not available though, so I have to hope those games are National TV or I need to hit the high seas.

That really sucks about Corpus... hopefully with the downfall of FanDuel and the rise of streaming, the League takes the opportunity to completely rethink how they approach broadcasting non-National games. I think the combo of ESPN/NBC/Prime has been great this year for National coverage, but I hear a lot of folks with grief about the rest of the games.

 

[shadow]

Yeah, I hate the way the NBA decides home markets.

Pretty much all CA teams are considered "home markets" and blacked out for us 2500 miles away in HI!!! Luckily the channels (I don't remember what they are called) that show GSW and SAC games I can get on YouTubeTV, but the LA channels are not available though, so I have to hope those games are National TV or I need to hit the high seas.

That really sucks about Corpus... hopefully with the downfall of FanDuel and the rise of streaming, the League takes the opportunity to completely rethink how they approach broadcasting non-National games. I think the combo of ESPN/NBC/Prime has been great this year for National coverage, but I hear a lot of folks with grief about the rest of the games.

The two nearest teams to me are 300 miles away and those are both considered local, but 2500 miles away being local in HI is ridiculous. I also hate that you can't watch locally aired games for 3 days on LP, while national games are next day.

Also, the Prime coverage has been good, but that is also one more thing to purchase (in addition to LP) when I don't want Amazon Prime (a free trial covered the first few, but I am not paying another $15/month for a game here and there).

 

[Manu20]

Do I get a fucking refund.

If this still includes league pass blackouts I’m gonna be pissed. League pass is useless in Corpus Christi.

I'm in the same boat as I live just south you in the Rio Grande Valley. FanDuel has been very good and stable for me this season and I have been getting free monthly offers since November and I still have one for January from my AMEX Card so no complaints here.

I don't know or understand what is the contractual obligations for the NBA blackout restrictions but it sucks that "Local Fans" it is harder to watch all the games from your home team than someone that lives in the other side of the country. :/

 

[BacktoBasics]

I'm in the same boat as I live just south you in the Rio Grande Valley. FanDuel has been very good and stable for me this season and I have been getting free monthly offers since November and I still have one for January from my AMEX Card so no complaints here.

I don't know or understand what is the contractual obligations for the NBA blackout restrictions but it sucks that "Local Fans" it is harder to watch all the games from your home team than someone that lives in the other side of the country. :/

I have to wonder how aware trans are of this stuff. Everyone always talking about getting more people to watch the NBA but our own fanbase can’t get access.

It’s stupid.

 

[Spurminator]

The NBA, MLB and NHL have lost an entire generation chasing quick money from the Bally's / FanDuels, Comcast Sports Nets of the world, instead of just making local games free and accessible (like the NFL, which surprise surprise, continues to grow in popularity.)

 

[Exstatic]

The NBA, MLB and NHL have lost an entire generation chasing quick money from the Bally's / FanDuels, Comcast Sports Nets of the world, instead of just making local games free and accessible (like the NFL, which surprise surprise, continues to grow in popularity.)

I think people would pay if there were no blackouts. That seems to be the sticking point, accessibility.

Anyway, hoping the sale to DAZN goes through.

 

[Spurminator]

I think people would pay if there were no blackouts. That seems to be the sticking point, accessibility.

If money is the objective, sure, some more people will pay... though probably not enough to offset the money teams were getting from the regional sports networks.
The Texas Rangers, as an example, had around 300K subscribers to its games on Victory+ at $100 per season... So $30 million minus operating costs, compared to the $95 million per season it made from DSG.

For long term brand health though? Free is the way to go. Think of all of the people in random areas of the country who are Cubs and Braves fans because they started watching those games on basic cable before they'd even been to Atlanta or Chicago (and before those teams were even any good).

There are three NBA teams in Texas, imagine if one of those teams had the balls to make every game available for free on YouTube. They would dwarf the other two teams in developing a long term following, which leads to more merch sales, higher ticket revenue, generations of fans, and more value when you sell the team. (And who knows what kind of YouTube ad revenue they could collect.)

I'm sure someone smarter than me has already run these numbers, and I realize players cost money, but I still don't understand limiting your audience when you are trying to build an institution like a pro sports franchise.

 

[Guru of Nothing]

The expense is annoying but the complexity is the worst - I'm tired of navigating my Roku, League Pass app, YouTube TV, NBATV, Paramount, Amazon, and a fucking peacock in a pear tree - only to find out I'm STILL not subscribed to the required service.

 

[Trainwreck2100]

I think people would pay if there were no blackouts. That seems to be the sticking point, accessibility.

Anyway, hoping the sale to DAZN goes through.

why? If it fails fanduel's done and the Spurs get the rights to broadcast their own games

 

[Trainwreck2100]

The expense is annoying but the complexity is the worst - I'm tired of navigating my Roku, League Pass app, YouTube TV, NBATV, Paramount, Amazon, and a fucking peacock in a pear tree - only to find out I'm STILL not subscribed to the required service.

One chromecast and one android tablet is all you need. You can get away with a $30 android tv stick

 

[Trainwreck2100]

Main Street misses January payments to NBA teams, 15-day cure period begins soon

Main Street Sports Group has missed its January payments to numerous undisclosed NBA teams amid its delicate sale to DAZN and uncertain future.

www.sportsbusinessjournal.com

In December, Main Street missed a payment to the St. Louis Cardinals, which triggered a Dec. 18 phone call from the NBA league office to all 13 FanDuel Sports Network teams -- alerting them that their January payments were in jeopardy. That prediction turned out to be prescient, when several of the NBA teams, if not all 13, did not receive their scheduled rights fee payments these past few days.

Sources said default notices prepared by the league’s primary law firm Proskauer have likely already been sent to Main Street and that a 15-day cure period will begin once the default notices are formally received. In the interim, Main Street will continue to produce this month’s games on its FanDuel Sports Networks for the 13 teams: the Hawks, Hornets, Cavaliers, Pistons, Pacers, Clippers, Grizzlies, Heat, Bucks, T’Wolves, Thunder, Magic and Spurs.

In response, a Main Street spokesperson issued the following statement to SBJ today: “Main Street Sports Group is in dialogue with its team and league partners around the timing of rights payments as we progress discussions with strategic partners to further enhance our long-term capital position.”

In another development that could be fortuitous for the NBA franchises, sources believe those 13 teams had safeguards written into their Main Street contracts that line them up to be primary payees from Main Street’s creditors should the business eventually collapse.

As of today, sources said Main Street still owes the 13 teams about $180M this season, and Main Street’s ongoing sale to DAZN is the obvious impediment keeping them from receiving their checks. Sources said the deal is purportedly contingent on several matters outside of Main Street’s control, with some sources believing that DAZN wants to secure all the teams’ digital rights and will potentially ask teams to accept lower rights fee payments.

If the sale does not close this month, sources said Main Street will wind down and shutter its business at the conclusion of the NBA and NHL seasons, with a goal of not interrupting game broadcasts until then.

If DAZN does close the deal, it conceivably could be business as usual, outside of a brand name change. But three teams’ Main Street contracts end after this season (the Grizzlies, Hornets and Magic), and most of the other teams’ deals expire in 2027, making it even more likely the NBA launches a national streaming RSN for the 2027-28 season on a platform such as Amazon, YouTube, Apple, Peacock or the ESPN app.

With the national streaming RSN hanging over Main Street’s head, its ties to the NBA — not to mention other leagues — were already teetering. Sources said Main Street’s creditors wanted 1M paid direct-to-consumer subscribers by the end of 2025, and reports had that number at 650,000 at mid-year, far below expectations. “Their creditors are getting tired,” one NBA team source said.

Either way, the thought of having games broadcast on DAZN gave many of those 13 NBA teams pause.

“It was a serious call with the league [back on Dec. 18],” one source said. “Proskauer was on the call, and DAZN’s investment was kind of poo-pooed, not as a big thing. They only have like 500,000 subscribers in the U.S. ... And then of course DAZN is interested in buying the team’s rights of which they don’t really control...nor would the league really say it was a pathway forward. [If Main Street shutters], the league, as always, is very prepared to do streaming [on their NextGen platform] as well as linear production on their own.”

MAIN STREET SPORT GROUP’S 2025-26 NBA RIGHTS FEE PAYMENTS:

• Atlanta Hawks: $32M*
• Charlotte Hornets: $16.57M
• Cleveland Cavaliers: $34M*
• Detroit Pistons: $25.78M
• Indiana Pacers: $17.47M
• Los Angeles Clippers: $34.59M
• Memphis Grizzlies: $11.41M
• Miami Heat: $55M*
• Milwaukee Bucks: $24M*
• Minnesota Timberwolves: $24.88M
• Oklahoma City Thunder: $16.67M
• Orlando Magic: $26.19M
• San Antonio Spurs: $19.92M

*This year’s contracts were extended at roughly the same numbers as their 2024-25 deals.

Important piece

As of today, sources said Main Street still owes the 13 teams about $180M this season, and Main Street’s ongoing sale to DAZN is the obvious impediment keeping them from receiving their checks. Sources said the deal is purportedly contingent on several matters outside of Main Street’s control, with some sources believing that DAZN wants to secure all the teams’ digital rights and will potentially ask teams to accept lower rights fee payments.


No way in hell the teams agree to a pay cut to help out Diamond

 

[dastexan]

Main Street misses January payments to NBA teams, 15-day cure period begins soon

Main Street Sports Group has missed its January payments to numerous undisclosed NBA teams amid its delicate sale to DAZN and uncertain future.

www.sportsbusinessjournal.com

Important piece

As of today, sources said Main Street still owes the 13 teams about $180M this season, and Main Street’s ongoing sale to DAZN is the obvious impediment keeping them from receiving their checks. Sources said the deal is purportedly contingent on several matters outside of Main Street’s control, with some sources believing that DAZN wants to secure all the teams’ digital rights and will potentially ask teams to accept lower rights fee payments.


No way in hell the teams agree to a pay cut to help out Diamond

Especially after many I think already accepted reduced fees during then bankruptcy.

 

[WembyFan]

I'm glad i went with the $20 a month plan instead of paying for the whole season.

 

[ace3g]

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