Starting power forward ideas in the short and long term

How did Bryant turn it around so quick, especially for a rookie? The dude has been playing great since his 180 turnaround 10-15 games ago. He was constantly going 1v1 missing at the basket or simply throwing the ball out of bounds and now he's looking somewhat like a vet with patience and poise. It's mind-boggling but very welcomed!
It seems like they have simplified his role on offense, secondary screens and catch and shoot threes from the corners or wings, which allows him to expend more energy and attention on defense.
 
How did Bryant turn it around so quick, especially for a rookie? The dude has been playing great since his 180 turnaround 10-15 games ago. He was constantly going 1v1 missing at the basket or simply throwing the ball out of bounds and now he's looking somewhat like a vet with patience and poise. It's mind-boggling but very welcomed!
I mean when you miss everything even wide open dunks...if you just stop doing that...you halfway there. So all CB had to do was stop doing that.
 
I have always been big on Bryant's stellar defensive tenacity but with his new found offense he's rounding out to be the SF we've been looking for since the departure of "he who shall not be named."
 
I have always been big on Bryant's stellar defensive tenacity but with his new found offense he's rounding out to be the SF we've been looking for since the departure of "he who shall not be named."
the way the team is built we havent really started a traditional power forward ever since sochan was benched, instead have had Barnes/Vassell or Vassell/Champagnie as the starting forwards, along with the Fox/Castle backcourt, so we've basically just had 2 SFs. Bryant is big/strong enough to defend most 4's around the league
 
I have always been big on Bryant's stellar defensive tenacity but with his new found offense he's rounding out to be the SF we've been looking for since the departure of "he who shall not be named."
Very true. The hope is that between internal improvement and finding the right PF, Spurs have shooting to sustainably start Dylan, Steph, Carter, ??, and Wemby in 2 years.
 
How did Bryant turn it around so quick, especially for a rookie? The dude has been playing great since his 180 turnaround 10-15 games ago. He was constantly going 1v1 missing at the basket or simply throwing the ball out of bounds and now he's looking somewhat like a vet with patience and poise. It's mind-boggling but very welcomed!
He was rushing IMO and trying too hard to impress and show what he can do which was leading to mistakes. Game was probably going a million miles an hour for him and then at some point he started slowing down and playing more simplified like Seventyniner said. I think he was overeager to try and show he belongs in the rotation and prove himself to the coaching staff. He probably never even gets the chances he got if HB didn't have that huge drop-off and play so poorly.
 
We truly lucked out with #2 and #14 in the last draft.

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How did Bryant turn it around so quick, especially for a rookie? The dude has been playing great since his 180 turnaround 10-15 games ago. He was constantly going 1v1 missing at the basket or simply throwing the ball out of bounds and now he's looking somewhat like a vet with patience and poise. It's mind-boggling but very welcomed!

The turning point came after his 1 game stint in the G-league. I think he just need confidence and if he believe in himself, his game will follow as well.

The Guard Whisperer also visited him and Castle (or the other way round they visited GW) quite recently, and I think that helps a ton too
 
I guess this is the most appropriate topic.

Back before the season even started I said if all of our young guys develop on the ideal trajectory, we might not even need anyone, with Bryant replacing Barnes.
Right now Bryant looks better than any of us expected and if he continues developing on this trajectory, he could be a legit role player by this time next year.
Champ has taken a huge leap in his all-round game, keeping him in the starting lineup over Barnes has solved some of our rebounding issues.

I think we need a situational PF/C that can give us something different in certain matchups.
A player similar to what Olynyk was almost a decade ago.
Not in the sense that we need such PF/C to pair with Wemby because we're doing just fine against physical teams, but I'm more concerned about the pace of some bench lineups and Kornet's impact.
Having a more mobile backup big that can also shoot would allow even more paint penetration for Harper/Keldon.

I'm not sure about this year's draft class, but if we're talking players realistically available in the summer, upgrading Olynyk/Barnes into Aldama would make our roster near-perfect if the young guys continue developing on their current trajectory.
Then we could even afford to get a project wing in the draft that wouldn't contribute right away.

As I posted in Champ topic, he's averaging 13/6 in 30 games since he became a permanent starter and is shooting 42% on 7 attempts per game. We can't get a better player in that price range, tbh.

I guess we have to wait for the playoffs to see who's going to be able to keep performing on their current level, because it's almost a given the lights will be bright for some role players.
 
I guess this is the most appropriate topic.

Back before the season even started I said if all of our young guys develop on the ideal trajectory, we might not even need anyone, with Bryant replacing Barnes.
Right now Bryant looks better than any of us expected and if he continues developing on this trajectory, he could be a legit role player by this time next year.
Champ has taken a huge leap in his all-round game, keeping him in the starting lineup over Barnes has solved some of our rebounding issues.

I think we need a situational PF/C that can give us something different in certain matchups.
A player similar to what Olynyk was almost a decade ago.
Not in the sense that we need such PF/C to pair with Wemby because we're doing just fine against physical teams, but I'm more concerned about the pace of some bench lineups and Kornet's impact.
Having a more mobile backup big that can also shoot would allow even more paint penetration for Harper/Keldon.

I'm not sure about this year's draft class, but if we're talking players realistically available in the summer, upgrading Olynyk/Barnes into Aldama would make our roster near-perfect if the young guys continue developing on their current trajectory.
Then we could even afford to get a project wing in the draft that wouldn't contribute right away.

As I posted in Champ topic, he's averaging 13/6 in 30 games since he became a permanent starter and is shooting 42% on 7 attempts per game. We can't get a better player in that price range, tbh.

I guess we have to wait for the playoffs to see who's going to be able to keep performing on their current level, because it's almost a given the lights will be bright for some role players.
I get what you’re saying, and I don’t think you’re arguing to flip the roster upside down. You’re basically saying it would be useful to have that type of PF/C option available if certain matchups expose something. That makes sense in theory. Where I see it differently is that I think leaning further into what the Spurs are already building is a better path than trying to add that archetype as insurance.

The bigger thing for me is the pattern of signals the Spurs themselves have been giving. Mitch has talked about how they want to respond to physical teams, but not by matching size or bulk. His wording was that their version of physicality is “activity, pace, connectivity, and anticipation.” That sounds much more like doubling down on speed, movement, and defensive activity rather than adding a traditional power forward body to the rotation.

You can also see it in the roster decisions. They haven’t pursued players like John Collins when those opportunities were there, and they’ve moved away from players in the more bulky, traditional mold. Instead the roster has gradually shifted toward longer, wirier, more active athletes who can move, defend multiple actions, and ideally shoot. When you look at those decisions together, it suggests the organization isn’t really trying to build toward that classic PF solution.

On top of that, the Spurs tend to be conservative with money. They rarely commit meaningful contracts unless the player clearly moves the needle. If someone like Aldama isn’t taking a pay cut, the realistic tier of players you could get in that archetype probably isn’t impactful enough to justify pursuing it just to have the option.

So for me the signs point in one direction. Rather than spending resources trying to cover that positional archetype, it seems more likely they’ll continue leaning into the identity they’re already shaping: speed, activity, versatility, and spacing around Wemby.
 
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