Trade Spurs Trade Ideas

[PocketMonger]

Our issue is that we need another reliable shooter, trading one of another wouldn't solve much.
Murphy is a better player overall, but their shooting is on more or less the same level.

Yeah shooting wise trading Dev for Murphy is two steps forward one step back. The need for Murphy just isn't worth the price.

As a last resort trade I wouldn't mind trading Olynyk for Klay Thompson. No picks would be attached as the Mavs wiggle out of the last year of Klay's deal. Again though this would only be a last resort deal at the deadline.

 

[LeBowen]

Problem is Devin is always hurt so even when he's having a monster season like this one he's not that reliable.

Murphy played 62-79-57-53 games so far in his career.
Some of it is on Pelicans tanking and sitting him, but it's not like he's reliable in that regard.

 

[PocketMonger]

Never thought I would say this but career average Bryn Forbes would really help this team as a specialist.

 

[PocketMonger]

Grant Williams has finally returned from injury and would be a good fit. He's a burly and 6'7 and can hit threes.

Spurs Get:
Grant Williams
Pat Connaughton

Hornets Get:
Olynyk
Sochan
Jazz second rounder.
Future second rounder.

Spurs get a burly PF plus a wing that can shoot. Both have lots of playoff experience too.

 

[LeBowen]

Never thought I would say this but career average Bryn Forbes would really help this team as a specialist.

Waters is that guy while not being compeltely useless on defense, it's just that our guard rotation is full.

Grant Williams has finally returned from injury and would be a good fit. He's a burly and 6'7 and can hit threes.

Great idea. I didn't realize he's back, exactly the PF we need for depth.
When Celtics made the finals in 2022, he averaged 8/4 in the playoffs, shot 39% from 3pt on almost 4 attempts.
65/150, 43% 3pt shooter in the playoffs.

The only issue is that he's got another year on his $13M deal and I'm not sure Spurs want that contract.

 

[PocketMonger]

Great idea. I didn't realize he's back, exactly the PF we need for depth.
When Celtics made the finals in 2022, he averaged 8/4 in the playoffs, shot 39% from 3pt on almost 4 attempts.
65/150, 43% 3pt shooter in the playoffs.

The only issue is that he's got another year on his $13M deal and I'm not sure Spurs want that contract.

His contract will be highly tradeable at next years deadline if needed. The Spurs will need salary ballast for trades next season too. I'd prefer to just keep him. Perfect fit with playoff experience.

 

[LeBowen]

His contract will be highly tradeable at next years deadline if needed. The Spurs will need salary ballast for trades next season too. I'd prefer to just keep him. Perfect fit with playoff experience.

The only concern is if he lost his mobility? That was a nasty injury and players take some to get back up to speed, even after they return.
Still, he can't be slower than Olynyk.

 

[ginobilized]

Purely in the fantasy mindset, but, when I look at what we could really use, Siakam is the ideal. Length for days, defends, can score, rebound, loves to run, can pass and hits some 3s. His team-first mentality fits our culture. We aren’t getting him, but, that’s the mold long term. Finding that type in the draft or a young player that can grow into a similar (but, lesser) type is what I want to find. Of course, Cooper Flagg is exactly that.

 

[Exstatic]

if it was Vassell and 2 FRP, would Spurs consider it?

No, because he won’t put up those numbers here as 4th or 5th option. His numbers would look like Vassell’s so why trade?

 

[BatManu20]

Should've been a Spur tbh

https://twitter.com/x/status/2011310209894162786

https://twitter.com/x/status/2011283504827678796

 

[BacktoBasics]

Our issue is that we need another reliable shooter, trading one of another wouldn't solve much.
Murphy is a better player overall, but their shooting is on more or less the same level.

I think this really needs to be emphasized. We don’t need to swap shooters and as unpopular as my opinion might be I don’t feel as though there’s any guarantee that TM3 is going to be miles better than Vassell.

Then he’s gonna want more money than Vassell as well.

Adding shooting is great. Swapping shooters is a coin toss in my mind.

 

[scott]

I think this really needs to be emphasized. We don’t need to swap shooters and as unpopular as my opinion might be I don’t feel as though there’s any guarantee that TM3 is going to be miles better than Vassell.

Then he’s gonna want more money than Vassell as well.

Adding shooting is great. Swapping shooters is a coin toss in my mind.

The money is a wash and TMIII is already locked up long term (three more years left, same as Devin, and about the same money as Devin as well, though TMIII's deal increases by $2MM/yr whereas Devin's is flat)

But all the other points are spot on. Acquiring TMIII would just result in more people hating him and saying we should have never traded for him when he ends up putting up the same stats as Vassell

 

[BigTimeBum]

I think it's time to just say goodbye to the idea of trading for Trey Murphy... He will cost way too much at this point.

The only person on this team at this point that Brian may want to part with is Jeremy sochan, and he does not have the best value ..

I wonder which wings may be available in the buyout market ... Khris Middleton? Bandaid fix.

 

[scott]

I think it's time to just say goodbye to the idea of trading for Trey Murphy... He will cost way too much at this point.

The only person on this team at this point that Brian may want to part with is Jeremy sochan, and he does not have the best value ..

I wonder which wings may be available in the buyout market ... Khris Middleton? Bandaid fix.

Khris Middleton seems like the Harrison Barnes of Chris Pauls... whatever that means... seems perfect for us.

 

[DTW]

Grant Williams has finally returned from injury and would be a good fit. He's a burly and 6'7 and can hit threes.

Spurs Get:
Grant Williams
Pat Connaughton

Hornets Get:
Olynyk
Sochan
Jazz second rounder.
Future second rounder.

Spurs get a burly PF plus a wing that can shoot. Both have lots of playoff experience too.

This is probably the most realistic trade I've seen, ahead of Sochan for Yabusele and Dadiet.

For taking on Williams' second season at about $14.27 million, I'm not sure the Spurs would have to add any 2nds though.

Although Plumlee won't be reevaluated for a month, just for roster balance purposes I'd throw in Waters for him.

 

[Vienna]

The money is a wash and TMIII is already locked up long term (three more years left, same as Devin, and about the same money as Devin as well, though TMIII's deal increases by $2MM/yr whereas Devin's is flat)

But all the other points are spot on. Acquiring TMIII would just result in more people hating him and saying we should have never traded for him when he ends up putting up the same stats as Vassell

I believe TM is not just the same, or slightly better than DV, I think he is the much better player. And he is a better fit. DV is a 2 who can play some 3, TM is a 3 who can play some 4 and the way the roster is construced currently, this is the much more valuable typ, regarding line up balance. TM is a better rebounder and passer as well.
I get the point, that TM's numbers won't look the same with the Spurs, when he is a 4th option. But you could also make a point, that TM is delivering outstanding shooting efficiency, despite being the 1st option, who get's the 1st option treatment from opposing defenses. He won't get the same number of attempts, but there is no reason to assume his efficiency will go down. If the price was DV and 2 FRP, I would do it.

 

[scott]

I believe TM is not just the same, or slightly better than DV, I think he is the much better player. And he is a better fit. DV is a 2 who can play some 3, TM is a 3 who can play some 4 and the way the roster is construced currently, this is the much more valuable typ, regarding line up balance. TM is a better rebounder and passer as well.
I get the point, that TM's numbers won't look the same with the Spurs, when he is a 4th option. But you could also make a point, that TM is delivering outstanding shooting efficiency, despite being the 1st option, who get's the 1st option treatment from opposing defenses. He won't get the same number of attempts, but there is no reason to assume his efficiency will go down. If the price was DV and 2 FRP, I would do it.

I'm not sure TMIII is getting "the first option treatment" in NOLA, but I'll admit I don't watch a lot of NOP games. But he's 4th on the team in FGA/36 and 6th in USG%. He is first on the team in raw FGA/gm, but he plays nearly 6 min/game more than everyone else.

On one hand, that speaks well to his efficiency. He's putting up the numbers he is without inflated USG or by the team just funneling the ball to him. This are all positives for TMIII.

But I don't know that I'd say he is a "much better" player than DV. I'd say he's a better player, and a better fit... but not worth the cost. You'd give up DV and 2 FRP... I wouldn't. I don't think TMIII is 2 FRP better than DV for the Spurs. That last caveat is important. I'm not looking to ever spend 2 FRPs to upgrade the 4th or 5th option. If you told me that we were going to acquire TMIII and re-prioritize the pecking order to take advantage of TMIII's talents, that's another question... but I'm already watching the Spurs try to turn Fox into an off-ball SG after spending multiple picks and a max contract on him, so I'm not at all confident that they would properly utilize TMIII if they paid DV and 2 picks for him.

 

[TBdog]

I still think the Spurs should look at Klay Thompson, and store our draft capital for another day. Expiring Olynyk is probably all we need to give up here.

TM3 has such a nice contract and I can see why teams would drool for him. Spurs would need to put serious draft capital to obtain him. Also spurs could target Looney in this package just to get some toughness and insurance if Kornett misses a key game or even a series. Pelicans might relinquished receiving one pick to get rid of him. Barnes and Olynyk both are expiring but both plus shooters on a team with no many plus shooters.

Another target is Keegan Murray for the same reasons as TM3, great contract. I think Kings are more short sighted though and love him enough to see him fail as their number 1 option after a fire sale, but the spurs do own their future 1st.

So Olynyk and Bryant would be the players the spurs would need to put in with serious draft capital.

 

[Hoopdreams11]

Haywood Highsmith is returning soon we could kick the tires.

 

[Guru of Nothing]

Purely in the fantasy mindset, but, when I look at what we could really use, Siakam is the ideal. Length for days, defends, can score, rebound, loves to run, can pass and hits some 3s. His team-first mentality fits our culture. We aren’t getting him, but, that’s the mold long term. Finding that type in the draft or a young player that can grow into a similar (but, lesser) type is what I want to find. Of course, Cooper Flagg is exactly that.

Concur with all this, and to add Scottie Barnes and his amazing all-around game.

 

[STAT88]

TM3 vs MPJ head to head tonight in a trade target battle for the ages.

Also I’m not sure I buy the TM3 and Devin comparison. Not saying the Spurs are going after TM3 but compared to Dev he is just a different tier of player. It’s like comparing Naz Reid to Lauri Markannen because they’re both tall stretch 4s. Not knocking Devin he’s been great this year. Also with Fox being somewhat unproven in the playoffs and being 6’2, Steph not being a reliable shooter or scorer, and Wemby not really being a self creator yet, i don’t think a guy like TM3 is excessive or duplicative to what the Spurs currently have, but it’s a question of is it worth the asking price.

 

[e78]

I will be shocked if the spurs do anything other then trade Olynyk's and/or Sochan's contract plus 2nd round picks to upgrade the team.

With that said, most of the names being thrown around are pipe dreams with that type of package.

 

[Hoopdreams11]

Sensabaugh had 43 tonight.

 

[RC_Drunkford]

if you want to add TM3 you add him and keep Vassell. That way you have 2 high level shotmakers on the wings. The problem is after a year and a half you'll have to trade one of them cause we'll be in the luxury tax by then. Then you spent 3 firsts all the way into 2031 while having to trade that caliber of player in 2028. Not a smart move. This is also why Lauri, JJJ, etc. moves don't work. We need somebody around 20 million on a longterm deal.

Aldama 18/17/17
Okongwu 15/16/17
PJ 14/20/21/23

these type of contracts. Or somebody for a 1.5 season window who won't cost more than 1 first rounder. That's the only way to keep the band together and add on top of it. Everything else is addition by subtraction.

 

[spursfanfromafar]

Can Michael Porter Jr and Dayron Sharpe be had for a couple of FRPs, Barnes, Sochan and Olynyk. Risky but I think it sets the Spurs up for at least a couple of contending seasons.