Trade Spurs Trade Ideas

[RC_Drunkford]

Oh. Thank you Mr Genious. Could you break down the split of your say 265 minutes you got by getting a rotation player for a non rotation player please?
minutes you need für your guy Bey you take from who? Barnes? Champ? Keldon? congratulation, you just traded minutes to a less efficient player, who is a worse defender and doesn't add any quality you didn't have yet. Great Plan Genius.

Watch the Jazz game from last night and you‘ll see he can take all the Lindy Waters, Sochan, Carter Bryant minutes, as well as some of the „let me score 3 points in 22 minutes“ playing time from Champagnie and Barnes. You got the IQ of a honey bun.

 

[Vienna]

Watch the Jazz game from last night and you‘ll see he can take all the Lindy Waters, Sochan, Carter Bryant minutes, as well as some of the „let me score 3 points in 22 minutes“ playing time from Champagnie and Barnes. You got the IQ of a honey bun.

Ah. Right. Spurs lose one game and the legion of wannabe GMs goes out to tell the world this never had happened if they were in charge. Jesus, you should run for office, definitely qualified. Btw Genious, the Spurs didn't win the 8 before this game, if you had replaced Barnes or Champagnie with Bey.

 

[Paramore]

 

[Paramore]

 

[DTW]

Despite Yabusele's struggles in a small sample size and his choosing the Knicks over the Spurs, Dadiet and him for Sochan is probably the most realistic trade.

Outside of center, the deep bench doesn't complement the rotation, which is why the games where they're shorthanded turn into adventures.

His girth and functional 3-point shot are better options than any they have and the Nuggets, Rockets and Timberwolves all feature burly front lines, which give them trouble.

 

[RC_Drunkford]

Ah. Right. Spurs lose one game and the legion of wannabe GMs goes out to tell the world this never had happened if they were in charge. Jesus, you should run for office, definitely qualified. Btw Genious, the Spurs didn't win the 8 before this game, if you had replaced Barnes or Champagnie with Bey.

You still can‘t comprehend that I‘m not talking about trading Champagnie or Barnes. Go argue with your chair.

 

[Shmurs]

Despite Yabusele's struggles in a small sample size and his choosing the Knicks over the Spurs, Dadiet and him for Sochan is probably the most realistic trade.

Outside of center, the deep bench doesn't complement the rotation, which is why the games where they're shorthanded turn into adventures.

His girth and functional 3-point shot are better options than any they have and the Nuggets, Rockets and Timberwolves all feature burly front lines, which give them trouble.

He looked good in the role we would like him to play when he was on Philly last year. And he looked good for several months.

It’s much more likely that the Knicks are just a difficult team to integrate into the it is that he just sucks now.

I’d like to see us take a shot

 

[Bruno]

I think the kind of trades Spurs will do will mainly depend on how they evaluate this year's team:

- If Spurs think they are a legit title outsider, improving the end of the roster makes a lot sense. Spurs might go with a player that will match better against bulky PFs, they might go with a third string center who is more paint presence than Olynyk (BTW, he still hasn't blocked a shot this year...) , they might add a shooter... They will likely be fine with spending second round picks and taking back some moderate contracts to do so.

- If Spurs think it's still a development year and that wining it all isn't even a remote option, they might just stand pat. Having an end of the roster, that is "so-so" with some glaring weaknesses, doesn't really matter in that case.

How Spurs view Carter Bryant is also a key point regarding some potential trades. If they are high on him and think he can significantly help them as soon as next season, they likely won't add another average forward with a non expiring contract.

 

[Bopper]

I think the kind of trades Spurs will do will mainly depend on how they evaluate this year's team:

- If Spurs think they are a legit title outsider, improving the end of the roster makes a lot sense. Spurs might go with a player that will match better against bulky PFs, they might go with a third string center who is more paint presence than Olynyk (BTW, he still hasn't blocked a shot this year...) , they might add a shooter... They will likely be fine with spending second round picks and taking back some moderate contracts to do so.

- If Spurs think it's still a development year and that wining it all isn't even a remote option, they might just stand pat. Having an end of the roster, that is "so-so" with some glaring weaknesses, doesn't really matter in that case.

How Spurs view Carter Bryant is also a key point regarding some potential trades. If they are high on him and think he can significantly help them as soon as next season, they likely won't add another average forward with a non expiring contract.

I agree fully. CB is probably off limits trade wise until SA gets a solid view of what he can become. Also if they are super high on his future, I don't think the eagerness to deal will be pressing.

Only trades I see this season are minor tweaks to add shooting to the equation at an affordable price. Spurs won't go all in until they are absolutely sure of what they have on this very talented young roster. I could see Sochan going in a trade before draft assets other than non convertible 2nds. Reality is, we don't really need anything other than shooting if we keep our health.

 

[Correct Crusader]

I think the kind of trades Spurs will do will mainly depend on how they evaluate this year's team:

- If Spurs think they are a legit title outsider, improving the end of the roster makes a lot sense. Spurs might go with a player that will match better against bulky PFs, they might go with a third string center who is more paint presence than Olynyk (BTW, he still hasn't blocked a shot this year...) , they might add a shooter... They will likely be fine with spending second round picks and taking back some moderate contracts to do so.

- If Spurs think it's still a development year and that wining it all isn't even a remote option, they might just stand pat. Having an end of the roster, that is "so-so" with some glaring weaknesses, doesn't really matter in that case.

How Spurs view Carter Bryant is also a key point regarding some potential trades. If they are high on him and think he can significantly help them as soon as next season, they likely won't add another average forward with a non expiring contract.

I don't see the spurs moving to make trades with how the team is set up. I think they probably just end up using the rest of their draft capital to add cheap talent that can grow with the team. Like you said I think CB has a lot to do with how they'll act.

 

[Vienna]

You still can‘t comprehend that I‘m not talking about trading Champagnie or Barnes. Go argue with your chair.

Neither do I. You talked about trading a non rotation player for a rotation player and I asked, who you take the minutes from, when you bring in a rotation player. That's when your head exploded and you stutter something about Waters and Sochan.......well, you obviously have a plan, genious.

 

[Bruno]

I could see Sochan going in a trade before draft assets other than non convertible 2nds.

Question about Sochan is whether or not he has asked for a trade.
If he has done that, I can see Spurs being nice with him, letting his agent find a team that is interested in him and then trading him at the deadline to that team, provided they don't need his expiring contract in another trade.

An example of this nice gesture trade would be a Sochan for Saric trade with Sacramento.

 

[Bruno]

Let's say Hawks trade for AD and Mavs aren't that interested in Risacher. Do you do a Risacher for Sochan + 2026 Spurs/Hawks first round pick (top 4 protected) trade?

 

[RC_Drunkford]

Neither do I. You talked about trading a non rotation player for a rotation player and I asked, who you take the minutes from, when you bring in a rotation player. That's when your head exploded and you stutter something about Waters and Sochan.......well, you obviously have a plan, genious.

when did you drop out of school 3rd grade?

Spurs vs. Jazz - Carter Bryant 14 min, Waters 4 min, Sochan 6 min - that's 24 minutes

Spurs vs. OKC - Barnes 30 min, Champagnie 20 min, Vassell 34 min - take 5 min from everybody = 15 min, you can even take 1 min from everybody else and make it 20. It's amazing how math works

Spurs vs. Wizards - Olynyk 9 min, Vassel 31, Castle 32, Fox 33 - take 5 there and add them to Olynyk's and you up to 14-15 min

Spurs vs. Hawks - Waters 17 min

Spurs vs. Wizards - Sochan 16 min



bUt bUt WhErE aRe ThE mInUtEs CoMiNg fRoM?


Now that I blew your mind with my supreme math skills, sit your stupid ass down and let a fruit basket be your teacher.

 

[Ice009]

Let's say Hawks trade for AD and Mavs aren't that interested in Risacher. Do you do a Risacher for Sochan + 2026 Spurs/Hawks first round pick (top 4 protected) trade?

Darn, if it's top 4 protected, I might think about it. I'd lean towards "no" though.
What is Risacher's defense like? I'm also not sure how comfortable that would be between the two having Steph and Zaccharie on the same team when they were picked in the same draft and Zaccharie's been a bit of a bust, but picked ahead of Steph. I'd be a bit worried with them possibly competing against each other.

 

[Vienna]

when did you drop out of school 3rd grade?

Spurs vs. Jazz - Carter Bryant 14 min, Waters 4 min, Sochan 6 min - that's 24 minutes

Spurs vs. OKC - Barnes 30 min, Champagnie 20 min, Vassell 34 min - take 5 min from everybody = 15 min, you can even take 1 min from everybody else and make it 20. It's amazing how math works

Spurs vs. Wizards - Olynyk 9 min, Vassel 31, Castle 32, Fox 33 - take 5 there and add them to Olynyk's and you up to 14-15 min

Spurs vs. Hawks - Waters 17 min

Spurs vs. Wizards - Sochan 16 min



bUt bUt WhErE aRe ThE mInUtEs CoMiNg fRoM?


Now that I blew your mind with my supreme math skills, sit your stupid ass down and let a fruit basket be your teacher.

Well, you might be a math genious, but unfortunately you are not very familiar with the game of basketball.

You really back up your point by 17 minutes Waters played in a blow out game??? You can give these 17 minutes in this specific game to prime Lebron and it doesn't change to outcome much.

You seem to believe a 11 man rotation is superior to a 9 man rotation. Congratulations genious, you just lost 8 out of the last 10.

 

[RC_Drunkford]

Well, you might be a math genious, but unfortunately you are not very familiar with the game of basketball.

You really back up your point by 17 minutes Waters played in a blow out game??? You can give these 17 minutes in this specific game to prime Lebron and it doesn't change to outcome much.

You seem to believe a 11 man rotation is superior to a 9 man rotation. Congratulations genious, you just lost 8 out of the last 10.

Those weren‘t garbage time minutes. It were regular rotation minutes. You should watch a game or 2 and you would know.

By the way 9 + 1 is 10 not 11. I know it’s hard for you to comprehend this.

 

[Vienna]

Let's say Hawks trade for AD and Mavs aren't that interested in Risacher. Do you do a Risacher for Sochan + 2026 Spurs/Hawks first round pick (top 4 protected) trade?

If you think a change of scenery will bring out a better version of Risacher, you do it. On paper he still is a player who should fit well.

But if you are willing to give up the Hawks pick, you should also be able to assemble a package that is interesting for the Pels in a TM3 deal. And comparing TM3 and Risacher considering the teams needs, I would go with the latter. I know, this might cause cap issues 2027, but I think you can solve this when you are there.

 

[Vienna]

Those weren‘t garbage time minutes. It were regular rotation minutes. You should watch a game or 2 and you would know.

By the way 9 + 1 is 10 not 11. I know it’s hard for you to comprehend this.

You are really desperate, aren't you. Waters played some minutes in Q2 with the Spurs up 20 and he played Q4, when it already was an end of the bench game.....

 

[ginobilized]

38 days and counting left until the trade deadline.

I'm prepared for the typical Spurs ho-hum move or none at all.
We do have an assemblage of moveable parts for the first time in ages. Biyombo, Sochan, McLaughlin, Waters, Olynyk could reasonably be used to bring back something useful along with some draft picks if we are going for a bigger swing. We know who our core players are and the aforementioned guys are not among them.

Personally, I'd like to add a big body to absorb some situational paint minutes vs the bruisers in the Western Conference. Zubac, Jokic, Adams, the list goes on. I'd also like another useful forward in the rotation to fill the Barnes/Champ void when they are not giving us much. Dean Wade is probably as good as it gets here, but, I'd be very open to seeing how that might work. I'd guess we hang onto McLaughlin as a Speedy Claxton playoff insurance 3rd string point guard type.

 

[PocketMonger]

Let's say Hawks trade for AD and Mavs aren't that interested in Risacher. Do you do a Risacher for Sochan + 2026 Spurs/Hawks first round pick (top 4 protected) trade?

Spurs are unlikely to find a better prospect in 10-15 range but his questionable jump shooting wouldn't fit well next to Harper and Castle.

As long as the pick is top four protected I'd still be pretty interested all in all. Doesn't turn 21 until April and already has NBA experience on a decent contract. Career 35% 3 point shooter at volume and would give the Spurs even more size on the wings.

 

[LeBowen]

Spurs are unlikely to find a better prospect in 10-15 range but his questionable jump shooting wouldn't fit well next to Harper and Castle.

As long as the pick is top four protected I'd still be pretty interested all in all. Doesn't turn 21 until April and already has NBA experience on a decent contract. Career 35% 3 point shooter at volume and would give the Spurs even more size on the wings.

Risacher won't be able to shake the #1 pick bust label as long as he's on the Hawks.
It's just the fact Hawks can't run away from.

But when he gets traded, it will be a fresh start. New team getting a young 3-D wing. If he was the #15 pick, everyone would say it's great value.
And that's the player his new team will be trading for, not the #1 bust because unlike other #1 busts, he seems to have the right mentality and is healthy, it's not his fault Hawks scout thought he's something he's not.

He's a positive defender, has legit wing size and is already a solid shooter.
I'd do that trade, no questions asked. Because while Risacher is a low ceiling player, he's also high floor, unlike any wing we'll be able to pick in that late lottery range.

 

[TBdog]

Spurs are closer to the title than anyone thought - like this year close. I can't imagine they'll trade for Risacher, who requires playing time now, and isn't going to contribute to winning at this current time.

 

[PocketMonger]

Risacher won't be able to shake the #1 pick bust label as long as he's on the Hawks.
It's just the fact Hawks can't run away from.

But when he gets traded, it will be a fresh start. New team getting a young 3-D wing. If he was the #15 pick, everyone would say it's great value.
And that's the player his new team will be trading for, not the #1 bust because unlike other #1 busts, he seems to have the right mentality and is healthy, it's not his fault Hawks scout thought he's something he's not.

He's a positive defender, has legit wing size and is already a solid shooter.
I'd do that trade, no questions asked. Because while Risacher is a low ceiling player, he's also high floor, unlike any wing we'll be able to pick in that late lottery range.

That's a good point about Zac being a high floor player. Good size and defense with a volume three ball. He would be the long term replacement for Barnes.

 

[PocketMonger]

Spurs are closer to the title than anyone thought - like this year close. I can't imagine they'll trade for Risacher, who requires playing time now, and isn't going to contribute to winning at this current time.

And like whoever they draft in the 10-15 range will be more ready to help us win a championship over the next 2.5 years? Again as long as the pick is top four protected its worth looking at.