Trade Spurs Trade Ideas

By my math, we are a MLE team next summer right?

If they dont plan to resign Lunch Lady I really do hope they flip him deal at the deadline, even if just to collect a marginally useful player that expires the year after. I wouldnt mind extending HB at good bench player rate, but if they have other plans they should move him too.
 
RC_Drunkford said:
Bey is literally 54th in rebounding in the entire NBA
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Rate stats are more telling than counting stats because they're not dependent on minutes per game.

For Bey's career, he's at 14.5% on the defensive glass and 9.7% overall.

For context, Barnes is 13.2% and 8.2%.
Johnson is 16.1% and 10.3%.
Champagnie is 14.3% and 8.8%.

These are all typical marks for wings.
 
spurraider21 said:
his contract is nice

25/26: 14
26/27: 15
27/28: 21
28/29: 22.5
29/30: 24 (player option, his age 31 season)

but 2 firsts seems rich for him
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Lakers are desperate for defensive wings, I don't think it'd be wise to enter a bidding war for Herb with them.
 
DTW said:
Rate stats are more telling than counting stats because they're not dependent on minutes per game.

For Bey's career, he's at 14.5% on the defensive glass and 9.7% overall.

For context, Barnes is 13.2% and 8.2%.
Johnson is 16.1% and 10.3%.
Champagnie is 14.3% and 8.8%.

These are all typical marks for wings.
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Unfortunately, because he can no longer defend the wing, we have Barnes playing the four.
 
DTW said:
Rate stats are more telling than counting stats because they're not dependent on minutes per game.

For Bey's career, he's at 14.5% on the defensive glass and 9.7% overall.

For context, Barnes is 13.2% and 8.2%.
Johnson is 16.1% and 10.3%.
Champagnie is 14.3% and 8.8%.

These are all typical marks for wings.
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which still would make him the second best rebounder on the team that's not a center. Which also still makes him 95th in the NBA in rebounding and his % is the best on NOLA for non-bigs. Only Missi and Queen are ahead of him. So he is in fact a good rebounder. Your stat actually supports my case.
 
scott said:
Sorry for spamming this thread, just sharing ideas as I listen to some NBA content this morning...

What about Time Lord for third C? Not sure what POR would want for him. RW for Sochan works in the trade machine for salary purposes... maybe flip POR an SRP or two?

He's a higher level performer than I envisioned for a third C, but he's completely unreliable from a health perspective which means he HAS to be a third C wherever he goes.

He'd be a huge upgrade over Bismack/Sochan C minutes when they get called upon... and I think we need to start accepting the idea that Wemby and Kornet are going to miss games. It's malpractice to not be prepared for that.
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Way too expensive for third string. I just look at it as if Wemby gets hurt and has to miss a series the Spurs lose anyways in this conference unless it's an easy first round matchup.
 
Kick-Stand said:
Way too expensive for third string. I just look at it as if Wemby gets hurt and has to miss a series the Spurs lose anyways in this conference unless it's an easy first round matchup.
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Too expensive in what context? He's a $13.2MM expiring. You already have third stringers Lunch Lady ($13.4MM) and Sochan ($7.1MM) on similar deals. One will get sent out for matching. The money is irrelevant.

Now, if you mean two SRPs is too expensive... since we like to punt those into outer space anyway, I'd disagree.

If Wemby missed a series, yeah we might lose either way... but if a capable backup to Korn Dog is the difference between getting swept in 4 blowouts and losing in 6 in competitive games, the latter has value in providing experience to the rest of the team.
 
I'd much rather the 6 competitive game scenario any day of the week over the other scenario.
 
Wright is a complete bonehead about center depth. Last year was insane we didn’t have a 2C. Now we cant muster a 3C.

These are not difficult positions to fill. He has a screw loose.
 
People saying to me that the 3rd string center won't get minutes and no one that is decent would want to sign on for that role. That might be true, but my question is, have the Spurs even tried to get someone good for that role? If they have and were turned down, OK, but if not, why haven't they tried? Whether it's Kalkbrenner or Raynaud (after Raynaud said he wanted to be in Sacramento and not be third string, why not trade up for Kakbrenner) in this past draft, or current NBA players through trade or FA signing, have they actually tried? Surely they weren't stupid enough to think an upgrade isn't needed and didn't bother trying.
 
CGD said:
By my math, we are a MLE team next summer right?

If they dont plan to resign Lunch Lady I really do hope they flip him deal at the deadline, even if just to collect a marginally useful player that expires the year after. I wouldnt mind extending HB at good bench player rate, but if they have other plans they should move him too.
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Seems unlikely or maybe out of character.

What are our comps for the Spurs signing someone in the offseason and then flipping them at the deadline?
 
BacktoBasics said:
Seems unlikely or maybe out of character.

What are our comps for the Spurs signing someone in the offseason and then flipping them at the deadline?
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I hear that, but they also went out of their way to trade a combination of smaller expiring (and a SRP) for a larger one. Maybe it was to see if KO still had something to offer, but maybe it was to be able to package again?

I think with KO’s money they’d be able to bring back a player in the $16M range if I’m not mistaken.
 
CGD said:
I hear that, but they also went out of their way to trade a combination of smaller expiring (and a SRP) for a larger one. Maybe it was to see if KO still had something to offer, but maybe it was to be able to package again?

I think with KO’s money they’d be able to bring back a player in the $16M range if I’m not mistaken.
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I stand corrected on that acquisition.

A flip is not out of the question.
 
scott said:
Too expensive in what context? He's a $13.2MM expiring. You already have third stringers Lunch Lady ($13.4MM) and Sochan ($7.1MM) on similar deals. One will get sent out for matching. The money is irrelevant.

Now, if you mean two SRPs is too expensive... since we like to punt those into outer space anyway, I'd disagree.

If Wemby missed a series, yeah we might lose either way... but if a capable backup to Korn Dog is the difference between getting swept in 4 blowouts and losing in 6 in competitive games, the latter has value in providing experience to the rest of the team.
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Sorry I meant in the context of signing him to a new deal this summer. Not interested in paying $10 to $15 million a season for a third string center.
 
Ice009 said:
People saying to me that the 3rd string center won't get minutes and no one that is decent would want to sign on for that role. That might be true, but my question is, have the Spurs even tried to get someone good for that role? If they have and were turned down, OK, but if not, why haven't they tried? Whether it's Kalkbrenner or Raynaud (after Raynaud said he wanted to be in Sacramento and not be third string, why not trade up for Kakbrenner) in this past draft, or current NBA players through trade or FA signing, have they actually tried? Surely they weren't stupid enough to think an upgrade isn't needed and didn't bother trying.
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I think a "3rd string" center is the wrong way to look at it. Should look at it more like Kornet is backup A and another center is backup B. Kornet plays a bruising style of basketball so he is going to get banged up some as well so we really need another center we can play just to maybe keep his minutes down. Like if we had a 2b center right now I wouldn't even want Kornet playing tonight no need in beating his body up against the wizards where we have 2 games against okc coming up next week.

I do think the staff got surprised by how bad Biyombo is and how much Jeremy regressed. Biyombo was passible last season but physically has fallen off a cliff and is unplayable. Jeremy just has not improved and he is also mostly unplayable in the offense we run. I do not think the coaching staff and thus the front office anticipated this happening. Or that the team would be this good this fast and instead of you just waiting around to see what you have you might need to make moves now for what you know you don't have and need, another not terrible center.
 
It seems that Pacers ownership is cheap.
Apparently Mathurin is available because they don't want to offer him a nine figure deal, which would be something like 100/4 or so.
Not a target for us, but it will be interesting to see how it plays out.
 
Love dealing with the Kings, Precious Achiuwa is a solid rebounder and easily having his most efficient season. Problems are he can't be traded until the deadline and he's a $2M expiring so is prolly better used as an add-on if they want to try to trade off their collection of bad contracts which is damn near everyone that gets minutes for them. But maybe good Sochan flyer? Precious + Saric for Sochan works, saves them a little money, offers them some upside to for two expirings.

Yabusele has been pretty brutal for NYK, maybe they'd take a flyer on him for Sochan but that salary match is really difficult. I really wanted Yabusele and maybe a change of scenario and playing with Vic could turn his season around.

For C, I feel fine riding with KO and waiting on the buy-out market. Never know who will show up, but I'd be fine taking a flyer on Lopez and DeAndre Jordan for free. They might both be washed, but I'd rather have either as the 15th man than BB.
 
Kick-Stand said:
Sorry I meant in the context of signing him to a new deal this summer. Not interested in paying $10 to $15 million a season for a third string center.
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I envision this only as a rental, and then the Spurs can deal with long-term third string C in the offseason.

Also, who knows what RWIII will cost in new deal... dude can't stay healthy I can't imagine he gets $10-15MM again.
 
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