Sean Swinney will be the head coach next season

[CrustyCoastBendFan]

You should ask yourself why you feel compelled to complain so much. I can understand constructive compliments and even somewhat regular criticism but you have to be one of the most miserable people here.

It always seems to be some degree of political connotation with it.

I can’t imagine how much you’ve completely lost yourself as a result.

You will and should retain your right to make the dumbest most idiotic posts ever but you should at least make an effort to not be such a miserable person.

Most of us are tired of the schtick.

I propose a name change for you.

TryingToBeBetterCoastBendFan.

Do you see the irony in working yourselves into a tizzy and doing exactly what you’re accusing me of by threatening and insulting me for responding to another insult—one from a person complaining about how reading my post made them feel? Of course you don’t.

I could keep this exchange going endlessly by responding with a sarcastic Popism, but since I’ve already had one of you do that with me, I chose not to. I shan't.

 

[Raven_]

The lineups in fucking JAN on a team that hasnt' even been together a year with major components of the core? Those lineups are more important than the actual win loss record? That seems like a pretty stupid way to judge a rookie head coach with a very young team who is pretty objectively out performing all preseason expectations but you do you.

not sure what games are you watching, there's very little "experimentation" there..

 

[MannyIG]

First of all, no coach is ever perfect. Has Mitch made mistakes? Of course. But on the whole, it is undeniable this team has outperformed the expectations most objective people had at the beginning of the year and mitch has really been effective giving them some structure they have very obviously lacked for many years under Pop. You can clearly see it in how Keldon and Devin have defined roles. Furthermore, you can see him coaching in REAL TIME. At the DC game, he lit into Wemby because he did one of his stupid drives into traffic and get easily stripped moves. Wemby got yanked, barely played in the 2nd half, and even walked into the locker room early and was visibly pissed that Mitch was riding him hard. Since then, we've seen an actual change in the way Wemby plays. That's not the only aspect of Wemby's game he's obviously changed. He's gotten Fox to take a bit of a back seat in hopes of developing Castle. Fox is a known commodity, but Castle is not. This is smart, and he's letting Castle try to work his way through it. He's even bringing Carter Bryant along pretty well as of late. This team needs time and development. The measure for success this year in the pre season was making the playoffs - especially if we could do it as a top 6 seed. That has shifted and now its about securing home court at least in one round, but that is a substantial uptick in what we expect from this team. I don't know why you guys have to get caught up on who plays 10 minutes in a fucking January game before we've even had the ASB. The dude very obviously trying to figure out what he has on that bench while developing the youth. This is not a championship level team currently and they need either development from current players or a player or two more so thinking we should fire a coach who's outperforming expectations is just wild.

There's no perfect coach out there. Every one of them will do shit that is wrong and you guys will focus on it and want them out too. For fucks sake many of you bitched about the GOAT coach for the entirety of his career. I didn't want to hire Mitch for this position, but we did and he's now doing a pretty OBJECTIVELY good job.

I hope none of you supervise people at your jobs. I can imagine you giving a performance review where your employee does 80% of things well but came in late a few times and you're like OH WELL GUESS WE GOTTA FIRE YOU.

 

[Neuromancer]

He's been with the team for 7 years now and had most of the last season to figure the basiscs out.
Playing third stringers and losing momentum while up double digits in the first half has nothing to do with experience, it's just idiotic.

7 years next to Pop is not the same as running the show. Last season he may have been the coach but we all knew he was coaching how he thought Pop would not like how he wanted to. Like I said he definitely has his head in his ass sometimes but I'll wait til he gets some playoff seasoning under his belt before I start calling for his head

 

[MannyIG]

not sure what games are you watching, there's very little "experimentation" there..

Listen, I can't make you not have bad takes on here. Scott refuses to let me ban people for bad takes so it is what it is. That being said, if you think Mitch is going to get fired this year or the next, without some type of sex scandal, then I would be down to allow you to put your money where your mouth is and make a bet over that. How much do you believe in your bad take?

 

[LeBowen]

I hope none of you supervise people at your jobs. I can imagine you giving a performance review where your employee does 80% of things well but came in late a few times and you're like OH WELL GUESS WE GOTTA FIRE YOU.

You can't compare sports, especially one of the most difficult leagues in all of sports, with regular jobs.

 

[Raven_]

Listen, I can't make you not have bad takes on here. Scott refuses to let me ban people for bad takes so it is what it is. That being said, if you think Mitch is going to get fired this year or the next, without some type of sex scandal, then I would be down to allow you to put your money where your mouth is and make a bet over that. How much do you believe in your bad take?

Actually I don't believe he'll get fired at all, I think he'll suck big time, win COTY, lose in the conference finals and claim he did the most with the roster, then make a worse roster next year.

 

[MannyIG]

Actually I don't believe he'll get fired at all, I think he'll suck big time, win COTY, lose in the conference finals and claim he did the most with the roster, then make a worse roster next year.

Framing a hypothetical loss in the WCF with this team as the coaches fault but giving no credit to the coach for getting there is perfect for y'all.

Carry on.

 

[Raven_]

Framing a hypothetical loss in the WCF with this team as the coaches fault but giving no credit to the coach for getting there is perfect for y'all.

Carry on.

you just have to watch the way we play tbh, there's no coaching there is just drive and kick ..

 

[scott]

OBJECTIVELY

oh no

 

[scott]

Listen, I can't make you not have bad takes on here. Scott refuses to let me ban people for bad takes so it is what it is. That being said, if you think Mitch is going to get fired this year or the next, without some type of sex scandal, then I would be down to allow you to put your money where your mouth is and make a bet over that. How much do you believe in your bad take?

What kind of sex scandal do we think Mitch would be involved in? I bet its some weird dungeons and dragons shit

 

[spursfanfromafar]

The team has flaws and holes but coaching isn't the issue. Hell, Mitch figured out that the rest of the league couldn't till OKC went 24-1...how to beat the reigning champions and beat them 3-0 before suffering a blowout game that exposed the structural weakness in the team that is not the coach's fault - consistent shooting.

I am willing to bet that Mitch remains after this season and maybe even wins a Championship in his first three years as head coach.

 

[Guru of Nothing]

First of all, no coach is ever perfect. Has Mitch made mistakes? Of course. But on the whole, it is undeniable this team has outperformed the expectations most objective people had at the beginning of the year and mitch has really been effective giving them some structure they have very obviously lacked for many years under Pop. You can clearly see it in how Keldon and Devin have defined roles. Furthermore, you can see him coaching in REAL TIME. At the DC game, he lit into Wemby because he did one of his stupid drives into traffic and get easily stripped moves. Wemby got yanked, barely played in the 2nd half, and even walked into the locker room early and was visibly pissed that Mitch was riding him hard. Since then, we've seen an actual change in the way Wemby plays. That's not the only aspect of Wemby's game he's obviously changed. He's gotten Fox to take a bit of a back seat in hopes of developing Castle. Fox is a known commodity, but Castle is not. This is smart, and he's letting Castle try to work his way through it. He's even bringing Carter Bryant along pretty well as of late. This team needs time and development. The measure for success this year in the pre season was making the playoffs - especially if we could do it as a top 6 seed. That has shifted and now its about securing home court at least in one round, but that is a substantial uptick in what we expect from this team. I don't know why you guys have to get caught up on who plays 10 minutes in a fucking January game before we've even had the ASB. The dude very obviously trying to figure out what he has on that bench while developing the youth. This is not a championship level team currently and they need either development from current players or a player or two more so thinking we should fire a coach who's outperforming expectations is just wild.

There's no perfect coach out there. Every one of them will do shit that is wrong and you guys will focus on it and want them out too. For fucks sake many of you bitched about the GOAT coach for the entirety of his career. I didn't want to hire Mitch for this position, but we did and he's now doing a pretty OBJECTIVELY good job.

I hope none of you supervise people at your jobs. I can imagine you giving a performance review where your employee does 80% of things well but came in late a few times and you're like OH WELL GUESS WE GOTTA FIRE YOU.

I don't disagree, but there's a perception held by many, including me, that Mitch has left a couple/few wins on the table. The W-L record is great, but I'm bracing for first round playoff disappointment right now.

 

[LeBowen]

I don't disagree, but there's a perception held by many, including me, that Mitch has left a couple/few wins on the table. The W-L record is great, but I'm bracing for first round playoff disappointment right now.

Not just left a couple of wins on the table, but we have more wins than we should've since Fox/Wemby carried in the clutch after we wasted double digit leads with poor rotations and execution.
For me that's a bigger issue than losing games.
If we were at around 50% in the clutch, we'd have 25ish wins, not 30.

 

[Ice009]

If Mitch is developing players, why TF is Harper not playing much yet Castle gets to play, chuck up shots, turn the ball over and run PG after signing De'Aaron Fox to a massive extension.
I get the Fox thing if they're trying to give Castle reps to see what he can do, but the Dylan thing makes me think he doesn't know what he's doing.

 

[LeBowen]

If Mitch is developing players, why TF is Harper not playing much yet Castle gets to play, chuck up shots, turn the ball over and run PG after signing De'Aaron Fox to a massive extension.
I get the Fox thing if they're trying to give Castle reps to see what he can do, but the Dylan thing makes me think he doesn't know what he's doing.

Posted it in another topic, but I'd really like someone to explain this shit to me.
This is from the recent Jazz game.
Up 8 after 1st, then Mitch trots out Waters and Olynyk at the start of 2nd as the 10th/11th player in the rotation.
Jazz instantly goes on a run.

Why the need to give minutes to your third string veterans on expiring contracts?
Why sit Harper and Bryant if they're doing well?

I'll repeat again, Harper is yet to play 30 minutes in a game this season. He played more than 26 just 4 times.
He's already 600+ minutes behind other top4 picks.
So much for prioritizing development over winning at all costs.

 

[BacktoBasics]

Do you see the irony in working yourselves into a tizzy and doing exactly what you’re accusing me of by threatening and insulting me for responding to another insult—one from a person complaining about how reading my post made them feel? Of course you don’t.

I could keep this exchange going endlessly by responding with a sarcastic Popism, but since I’ve already had one of you do that with me, I chose not to. I shan't.

I accept your surrender. Thanks for understanding.

 

[BacktoBasics]

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Posted it in another topic, but I'd really like someone to explain this shit to me.
This is from the recent Jazz game.
Up 8 after 1st, then Mitch trots out Waters and Olynyk at the start of 2nd as the 10th/11th player in the rotation.
Jazz instantly goes on a run.

Why the need to give minutes to your third string veterans on expiring contracts?
Why sit Harper and Bryant if they're doing well?

I'll repeat again, Harper is yet to play 30 minutes in a game this season. He played more than 26 just 4 times.
He's already 600+ minutes behind other top4 picks.
So much for prioritizing development over winning at all costs.

I think Harper needing more PT on occasion is a fair point despite the mediocre play lately.

But I don’t think subbing those guys in is egregious or irresponsible.

Olynyk is a vet and should be trusted with mid game minutes and Waters hasn’t been all that bad in short spurts.

I’m not on the Wemby is injury prone train but mid season we should be stretching our bench when we can and doing so against shit talent should be encouraged.

As a coach I would expect the end of my roster on a top 5 team to outperform the worst team in the league.

 

[Ice009]

I'll repeat again, Harper is yet to play 30 minutes in a game this season. He played more than 26 just 4 times.
He's already 600+ minutes behind other top4 picks.
So much for prioritizing development over winning at all costs.

This is what doesn't make sense.

 

[LeBowen]

Olynyk is a vet and should be trusted with mid game minutes and Waters hasn’t been all that bad in short spurts.

He should, but there was no need for him.
I'm all for Olynyk when we're struggling, but I just hate when coaches overcomplicate shit when there's no need for it.
A texbook case of someone not getting over himself.

I’m not on the Wemby is injury prone train but mid season we should be stretching our bench when we can and doing so against shit talent should be encouraged.

In theory it makes perfect sense, but this season it's done nothing but bring opponents that are on the verge of getting blown out back into the game, which resulted in more minutes for our starters.

This is what doesn't make sense.

Also forgot to add that Harper's minutes haven't gone up since Devin went down.
You'd think that's understandable since he's a bad shooter and we need spacing, but Castle's minutes went up and the less said about his performance in those minutes, the better.

 

[MannyIG]

I don't disagree, but there's a perception held by many, including me, that Mitch has left a couple/few wins on the table. The W-L record is great, but I'm bracing for first round playoff disappointment right now.

He has definitely left wins on the table but my point is that we're not s supposed to measure him against perfection but what a reasonable good coach would do and EVERY coach will leave wins on the table in an 82 game season. What you're essentially saying is that he's made mistakes but that does nothing to move me without context. I'm not against being critical about the mistakes Mitch makes but this thread title is literally about replacing a guy who is in serious consideration for COTY which I find just laughable.

 

[MannyIG]

What kind of sex scandal do we think Mitch would be involved in? I bet its some weird dungeons and dragons shit

Probably foot stuff.

 

[Ice009]

Also forgot to add that Harper's minutes haven't gone up since Devin went down.
You'd think that's understandable since he's a bad shooter and we need spacing, but Castle's minutes went up and the less said about his performance in those minutes, the better.

Darn, that's even weirder. Why wouldn't they play him more minutes? It's not like they're playing multiple sharpshooters ahead of him.

 

[MannyIG]

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Posted it in another topic, but I'd really like someone to explain this shit to me.
This is from the recent Jazz game.
Up 8 after 1st, then Mitch trots out Waters and Olynyk at the start of 2nd as the 10th/11th player in the rotation.
Jazz instantly goes on a run.

Why the need to give minutes to your third string veterans on expiring contracts?
Why sit Harper and Bryant if they're doing well?

I'll repeat again, Harper is yet to play 30 minutes in a game this season. He played more than 26 just 4 times.
He's already 600+ minutes behind other top4 picks.
So much for prioritizing development over winning at all costs.

my god y'all are making charts because MItch is playing 11 men deep on the front side of a back to back in January against a bad opponent? You REALLY need that explained to you? The only way this could be better is if the same people complaining about this are the same ones complaing that Wemby looked gassed the next day. Harper has spent the last month dealing with the Rookie Wall and we're wondering why he isn't playing MORE?

I'm really trying not to be a dick but man, this is not complicated.

 

[LeBowen]

my god y'all are making charts because MItch is playing 11 men deep on the front side of a back to back in January against a bad opponent? You REALLY need that explained to you? The only way this could be better is if the same people complaining about this are the same ones complaing that Wemby looked gassed the next day. Harper has spent the last month dealing with the Rookie Wall and we're wondering why he isn't playing MORE?

I'm really trying not to be a dick but man, this is not complicated.

It's from basketball-reference. And that game is just an example, he's been doing it a lot this season.
Harper's minutes were always low, even when he scored 20 he was limited to just 26 minutes.

I agree, it's not complicated. Mitch complicates it.