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[BacktoBasics]

Kornet didn’t say that a woman’s choice to be a stripper should be taken away or that it should be outlawed.

He said that it shouldn’t be promoted at a sports event that has a goal of being family friendly.

As @scott said there’s abuse in the industry, and the NBA doesn’t need to be involved in glamorizing it.

How did the nba glamorize abuse? In fact the franchise was doing the opposite. They’re glamorizing the positives of the institution and its impact on the community.

Not you but the guy giving me a thumbs down in a reasonable discussion without actually responding to me with a thoughtful take is weak AF.

Some of you just want to be morality police and control the free will of others.

I don’t see any of you speaking out against other NBA or franchise partners that have a history of abuse in their industries.

 

[BacktoBasics]

At the risk of sending us further off-topic...my first response whenever people give this dignified "Sex work is a choice!" stance is this:

If these people can honestly sit here and say with a straight face that they'd encourage and be 100% fine with their child pursuing sex work as a "career", then I'll accept their point that it's just a normal choice like any other career path. I have a strong feeling that's not the case, and these people would be doing damn near everything in their power to prevent their kid from getting into that line of work...in which case please fuck off and stop making these arguments.

Not saying that these women should be ridiculed or treated as sub-human for their choices, but it's just so insane to act like sex work is just a normal run-of-the-mill job that should be treated like every other profession. There are a number of reasons for this and anyone not being willfully ignorant for the sake of moral grandstanding understands this.

That’s kinda what you’re doing though. This is the same argument people made about their kids being gay. It was viewed as immoral and deviant. Clearly it’s not.

If a grown adult chooses sex work, enjoys it and makes a great living doing it… or even does it to make ends meet or to survive.

Why would any parent tear them down for that?

 

[scott]

How did the nba glamorize abuse? In fact the franchise was doing the opposite. They’re glamorizing the positives of the institution and its impact on the community.

Not you but the guy giving me a thumbs down in a reasonable discussion without actually responding to me with a thoughtful take is weak AF.

Some of you just want to be morality police and control the free will of others.

I don’t see any of you speaking out against other NBA or franchise partners that have a history of abuse in their industries.

Aside from any discussion about the pros and cons of strips clubs (which I actually think is beside the point and Beadle kind of loses the plot in even talking about it to begin with), for me it's simple: I wouldn't want to have to talk to my 15 and 10 year old daughters about what "Magic City" is if I happened to have tickets to this game. Maybe that makes me a bad parent, IDK, but I think it would be a pretty common feeling amongst a lot of parents if you asked them and I think that's the standard by which promotions like this should be judged.

And before anyone asks, yes I feel the same way about Kalshi/PolyMarket/whatever and MichUltra/Bud/Jack Daniels/whatever... and I say this as someone who has a quite comfortable life because of the alcohol industry and who loves to gamble.

 

[OK Computer]

How did the nba glamorize abuse? In fact the franchise was doing the opposite. They’re glamorizing the positives of the institution and its impact on the community.

Not you but the guy giving me a thumbs down in a reasonable discussion without actually responding to me with a thoughtful take is weak AF.

Some of you just want to be morality police and control the free will of others.

I don’t see any of you speaking out against other NBA or franchise partners that have a history of abuse in their industries.

Your statement is the definition of glamorization.

Glamorizing something does not mean celebrating the abuse itself. It means highlighting the positives, benefits, or community impact of an institution while minimizing or ignoring the harmful parts tied to it.

Saying the franchise is “showing the positives of the institution and its impact on the community” is exactly what people mean when they say something is being glamorized. The positive framing is what creates the perception of glamorization.

 

[TimmyBuckets]

The fact that there's even an argument about an NBA team promoting a strip club is ridiculous in and of itself.

 

[The Truth #6]

So Clermont Lounge, that's the infamous (?) strip club in a dive bar vibe run and owned by women I was trying to think of. That's the one with the stripper named Goldie who's been memorialized in song and comic books. To me that just sort of complicates Atlanta's history and culture with strip clubs. It's still not something I'm openly celebrating, but simultaneously acknowledging it's perhaps more complicated than I fully understand, at least in that city.

But I think Luke is fine for starting the conversation.

 

[Coyote2!]

Opponent Strip Club Celebration Night Success Rate Leaderboard:

Luke Kornet: 0%
Everyone else: N/A

 

[BacktoBasics]

Your statement is the definition of glamorization.

Glamorizing something does not mean celebrating the abuse itself. It means highlighting the positives, benefits, or community impact of an institution while minimizing or ignoring the harmful parts tied to it.

Saying the franchise is “showing the positives of the institution and its impact on the community” is exactly what people mean when they say something is being glamorized. The positive framing is what creates the perception of glamorization.

Those things are in fact positive. They’re not taking a clear negative and reframing it as a positive.

Like drinking. Which has zero health and public benefits. Probably the single most destructive thing in society. Even an innocuous drink in the privacy of your home has negative health effects.

I don’t know what the percentage of strippers were trafficked or abused but I bet it’s exceedingly low and probably lower than the number of people trafficked in and out of hotels or in and out of the agricultural sector.

 

[Correct Crusader]

@scott am I allowed to discuss stripping in an argumentative way or does that constitute politics (I can see it spiraling easy as someone already brought up maga)

 

[BacktoBasics]

If you’re gonna thumbs down my posts while not engaging in meaningful discussion you’re a pussy.

I’m not trolling or antagonizing anyone within this discussion.

It’s a pussy move.

 

[NotRobDiaz21]

Settle down, ladies. Don't want to have to teach y'all a lesson behind Whataburger tbh

 

[BacktoBasics]

@scott am I allowed to discuss stripping in an argumentative way or does that constitute politics (I can see it spiraling easy as someone already brought up maga)

Argumentative to you seems to be an opinion you don’t agre with.

If you don’t want to engage in the discussion then step out of the room. You’re acting like a child.

 

[Correct Crusader]

If you’re gonna thumbs down my posts while not engaging in meaningful discussion you’re a pussy.

I’m not trolling or antagonizing anyone within this discussion.

It’s a pussy move.

That's why I'm asking what's allowed lol

 

[Correct Crusader]

Argumentative to you seems to be an opinion you don’t agre with.

If you don’t want to engage in the discussion then step out of the room. You’re acting like a child.

Argumentative because it's an argument... Relax dude

 

[OK Computer]

Those things are in fact positive. They’re not taking a clear negative and reframing it as a positive.

Like drinking. Which has zero health and public benefits. Probably the single most destructive thing in society. Even an innocuous drink in the privacy of your home has negative health effects.

I don’t know what the percentage of strippers were trafficked or abused but I bet it’s exceedingly low and probably lower than the number of people trafficked in and out of hotels or in and out of the agricultural sector.

Yes, so… when a thing has positives and negatives and only the positives are highlighted, that’s called glamorization.

As far as I know, no team has had a night to celebrate drinking itself or a night to celebrate… hotels.

 

[BacktoBasics]

That's why I'm asking what's allowed lol

No. You’re abusing a feature of the forum to antagonize another member.

 

[Correct Crusader]

No. You’re abusing a feature of the forum to antagonize another member.

alright man

 

[BacktoBasics]

Yes, so… when a thing has positives and negatives and only the positives are highlighted, that’s called glamorization.

As far as I know, no team has had a night to celebrate drinking itself or a night to celebrate… hotels.

No different than doing promotions with those businesses. If anything that exchanges is arguably worse.

 

[BacktoBasics]

alright man

It’s exactly what you’re doing. It’s passive aggressive childish behavior. We can disagree, even not like each other but to tag a post like that (repeatedly) when I’m making a genuine good faith effort to discuss something is pathetic.

Do you act like this at a bar or restaurant if the people sitting next to you say something you disagree with?

 

[Correct Crusader]

It’s exactly what you’re doing. It’s passive aggressive childish behavior. We can disagree, even not like each other but to tag a post like that (repeatedly) when I’m making a genuine good faith effort to discuss something is pathetic.

I was just disagreeing with your argument and you called me a pussy because I didn't spell it out why

 

[Correct Crusader]

It’s exactly what you’re doing. It’s passive aggressive childish behavior. We can disagree, even not like each other but to tag a post like that (repeatedly) when I’m making a genuine good faith effort to discuss something is pathetic.

Do you act like this at a bar or restaurant if the people sitting next to you say something you disagree with?

This isn't a restaurant or a bar, this is a forum.
This is my last post arguing with you about this because this is just dumb

 

[BacktoBasics]

I was just disagreeing with your argument and you called me a pussy because I didn't spell it out why

Yeah I stand by that.