Friendship crew apology topic

[LeBowen]

Title.

As one of the biggest friendship crew haters, I have to concede and I'll gladly admit I was wrong.
Devin and Keldon have been so good as of late, elite role players in every sense.
Jeremy is garbage, but 2/3 is enough for an apology topic, tbh.

 

[scott]

Title.

As one of the biggest friendship crew haters, I have to concede and I'lll gladly admit I was wrong.
Devin and Keldon have been so good as of late, elite role players in every sense.
Jeremy is garbage, but 2/3 is enough for an apology topic, tbh.

It’s getting time for me to move my Anti-Dev avatar from my desktop (was saving it for future use if needed) to the recycling bin

 

[MannyIG]

I maintain they just needed a coach. Pop was really checked out or just didn’t have it and let them do whatever they but Mitch has them playing roles and it’s amazing.

 

[SpursFan86]

I keep waiting for Keldon to regress, but we’re now over a third of the way through the season. Starting to feel like this is maybe just his new form which is a scary thought.

I’ve always had higher hopes for Vassell and he hasn’t been as impressive this year, but it’s still been great to see him bounce back after a rough start. This team desperately needs legit knockdown 3-point shooters and he’s filled that void, and the defense has been respectable as well.

Sochan…just not much to say at this point. Have to imagine the Spurs are seriously looking at moving him. No point in just having a former top-10 pick rot at the end of your bench. Seems like they’ve made the decision that he’s not worth developing at this point.

 

[timtonymanu]

Oddly enough before this year, some were still banking on Sochan to be a higher contributor to this Spurs team than Keldon and Vassell.

 

[Mugen]

Checking in tbh.

I owe Big Body a big apology tbh.

 

[spursparker9]

Oddly enough before this year, some were still banking on Sochan to be a higher contributor to this Spurs team than Keldon and Vassell.

tbf Sochan started last year with a bang while KJ and Vassell continue their regression.

I think CP3 playmaking helped out Sochan a lot. This year with a much better roster and no improvement to his game, Sochan has no contribution to the team anymore

 

[Ice009]

Devin is a little bit inconsistent, which as people say is fine for a role player, but the issue is with what he's getting paid, it might be too much if he can't be more consistent. On the other hand, KJ has really impressed me with his consistency this season. KJ's brought consistency (with rebounding, hustling etc. - effort, something that you can control) and it's been amazing to watch. I still think Devin is the better player, but if only Devin could be more consistent, most of us wouldn't worry about his salary.

 

[100%Duncan]

Big apologies to Keldon as I was hating on him the last 2 seasons.

Was still always a fan of Dev, heroballing Kobe-ball is a guilty pleasure of mine. Dev is just a hooper that looks good at doing it, but this season he’s actually contributing to winning.

 

[Uriel]

I still remember when we had just drafted Sochan and pundits were saying we had just gotten the next Diaw. To be fair, he could still theoretically be that someday, but he needs to take a leap, and so far, he hasn't even been given a chance this season.

 

[100%Duncan]

I still remember when we had just drafted Sochan and pundits were saying we had just gotten our Diaw replacement. To be fair, he could still theoretically be that someday, but he needs to take a leap, and so far, he hasn't even been given a chance this season.

Only thing he can do is get as fat as Diaw.



This dude is 1/10 of the worst version of Diaw.

 

[RC_Drunkford]

I mean these 2 combined for 40 points on average when we were tanking. Always believed Devin will be great offball with PGs around him.

Keldon was a question mark defensively, but he plays much better on that end this season and the role Mitch put him in offensively is just perfect. Extend the man.

I also think our team defense plays into the strengths of both of them instead of having to guard players one on one.

I mentioned in another thread 1 of the 3 will stay, one will go and the other one is 50/50. Now it’s clear: Jeremy is the odd man out and Keldon and Devin are longterm pieces.

 

[brazil]

Keldon should be contending now for 6moty tbh

 

[Shmurs]

Keldon gets all the apologies.

Jeremy …ha. But Devin is a good role player who needs to be the 3rd/4th option to thrive. Thats what this team needs but that’s also still a disappointing outcome for him. But that’s his problem I guess. He’s fitting the need.

 

[spursparker9]

Both entered the league at the right time (when Spurs are seriously depleted) and got their big contract.

Nice that they are at least playing to their contract value now

 

[Ariel]

Not a fan of apologies after a couple dozen games, it's tempting to buy in but after years of underperforming I expect to see them play up to their salaries for longer before considering them long term pieces. I will say though they've earned the right to play out the season and continue proving themselves, hopefully they can sustain it the rest of the way and, more importantly, in the playoffs which is where it matters.

 

[MannyIG]

I still remember when we had just drafted Sochan and pundits were saying we had just gotten the next Diaw. To be fair, he could still theoretically be that someday, but he needs to take a leap, and so far, he hasn't even been given a chance this season.

This is normal with lotto picks. Most don’t work out. All have potential but some can’t get all the pieces together. I think sochan is clearly an nba player but I don’t think he can play on this team without a shot and I also think he badly needs a change of scenery. Watching him in warmups the other night he’s completely in his head when he shioots. IN WARMIPS! His confidence is shot and I think he needs a new start.

 

[2centsworth]

Keldon has accepted and embraced his role. Want to see him make more plays defensively, though. I've always liked Devin's game, and not having to play as many minutes seems to be keeping him healthy-- knock on wood. I'll never understand the Sochan pick with Jalen Duren staring them in the face-- equivalent to sitting Duncan when we needed a rebound.

 

[Kick-Stand]

Devin looks like a completely different player with his role narrowed to being a finisher. Fire up the three immediately when open or fake and immediately dribble into the midrange for a good shot and if not get it right back to an initiator. He works so much better in this offense not being asked to be a creator and to instead call his own number any time he has an advantage. He has been a straight assassin.

Love seeing Keldon quick on the fire when he gets a good opportunity from the three too and he's been pretty devastating playing like late 90's Indiana Mark Jackson dribbling into post-ups on the low block where he can bully other SFs. Keldon must have put in a ton of work on his three point shot this offseason because it's becoming an enormous weapon.

 

[rjv]

the real apology should be made to the posters who had to endure all that abuse because they supported some of the 'friendship crew'.

 

[inagra]

Devin looks like a completely different player with his role narrowed to being a finisher. Fire up the three immediately when open or fake and immediately dribble into the midrange for a good shot and if not get it right back to an initiator.

Devin of the past was on the all dribble-dribble-dribble team. Glad he changed.

 

[scott]

This is normal with lotto picks. Most don’t work out. All have potential but some can’t get all the pieces together. I think sochan is clearly an nba player but I don’t think he can play on this team without a shot and I also think he badly needs a change of scenery. Watching him in warmups the other night he’s completely in his head when he shioots. IN WARMIPS! His confidence is shot and I think he needs a new start.

I harp on this a lot, but I don’t think it can be said enough. Lots of picks don’t work out. We are just spoiled we’ve had a ton of picks over the years who have been extreme outliers in the normal range of outcomes, especially at picks 28 and 29. As a result, Spurs Fan expects every pick to become an all star. The 2021 and 2022 drafts was just regression to the mean slapping us in the face.

 

[Spurminator]

I maintain they just needed a coach. Pop was really checked out or just didn’t have it and let them do whatever they but Mitch has them playing roles and it’s amazing.

Pop just seemed to be focused on character building over winning. Maybe some of that was necessary for where they are now, maybe not, I'm just glad we're back to winning. Pop could have retired five years ago and become one of the world's best life coaches.

 

[Shmurs]

This is normal with lotto picks. Most don’t work out. All have potential but some can’t get all the pieces together. I think sochan is clearly an nba player but I don’t think he can play on this team without a shot and I also think he badly needs a change of scenery. Watching him in warmups the other night he’s completely in his head when he shioots. IN WARMIPS! His confidence is shot and I think he needs a new start.

What’s the argument for Jeremy as an NBA player? I’m still confused by this. There’s no other rotational player in the league (outside of whatever the tanking teams are up to) who is this bad of an overall presence - at least not at the 4/5. The best version of him is a 12th guy that you throw out to run around on D on the perimeter do nothing else - but is that a real role? I don’t know of anyone like that.

Someone his size simply can’t be that limited on offense and still have a home on any competing team. He actually doesn’t know how to play pro basketball. Like it’s not just real time processing issues. If you gave him a written test on how to do basketball - he wouldn’t know then either. He’s just a guy who is tall and had parents that knew how to situate him. Never was a pro player. Never will be. Not in this league anyway.

 

[Mugen]

My problem was not putting even more of the blame on the coach who stopped caring tbh