He looks like a lefty Tony Parker to me. If he develops a three even to the level Parker did, he's all-NBA every year. If he develops a Harden-level three, I don't even know how to characterize that.
Harden-level offense with some awareness for team and winning, which Dylan already has, would be fucking amazing. He's also 20 times the defender Harden has ever been.
No. Harden is a loser. Offensively-gifted loser, yes. Take what Dylan has already shown to be and give him top-5 all time three point shooting, and you've got a perennial MVP.You'd characterize it as Harden
He very much looks the part of OKC Harden tbh who was not even that bad of a defender before he had to shoulder the offensive load in Houston.
He's a playoff choker and mentally weak but prime Harden was one of the best offensive players of all time and an MVP. I'd be thrilled if Dylan even got close to that tbh.
I have to stop replying as if I hate Harper. I don't just in case anyone is thinking that. I really love that we got him and I love his play. I just still believe Kon would've been the better pick for what our team needs right now AND in the future. Most of you in here just keep talking about the future and where he'll eventually end up being and none of that is guaranteed. That's with any of these young guys. But again, I don't hate Harper and I'm just fine with him being on this team.
I don't think Castle is the point guard of the future. He can play point guard. But I would ultimately start him with Harper. With his defense and Victor behind him, you could practically put him in any position.I have to stop replying as if I hate Harper. I don't just in case anyone is thinking that. I really love that we got him and I love his play. I just still believe Kon would've been the better pick for what our team needs right now AND in the future. Most of you in here just keep talking about the future and where he'll eventually end up being and none of that is guaranteed. That's with any of these young guys. But again, I don't hate Harper and I'm just fine with him being on this team.
But on another note, I'm confused on why y'all seem so quick to push Castle out of the way as if he couldn't/can't achieve all of these things that people speak about of Harper and be our point guard of the future. I guess because his play doesn't look as smooth?? As of right now, Harper appears to be a much more natural scorer but Castle is no slouch at creating his own shot or getting to the hole ither. We know he works hard on his game and has shown great improvement in it in just his second year and his top notch defense is already there. I guess Area 51 isn't a thing anymore, huh? This coming off a year of being the ROTY. Me personally, I felt like we had our PG of the future in Castle, which is why I questioned the pick. Especially since we just signed Fox to 4 years. That means that Harp can potentially be coming off the bench for those 3 or 4 years as the #2 pick and that makes no senses to me. No one can convince me that Kon wouldn't have been just as great a pick as well if we would've drafted him. We love Devin now but let's not forget that many wanted him gone up until this year. We needed shooting and we knew Kon was a sniper coming out of college. He could very well be Curry 2.0 in terms of just shooting the 3 ball. I'll take that as a "role player" compared to a guard that we already had 2 of.
I have to stop replying as if I hate Harper. I don't just in case anyone is thinking that. I really love that we got him and I love his play. I just still believe Kon would've been the better pick for what our team needs right now AND in the future. Most of you in here just keep talking about the future and where he'll eventually end up being and none of that is guaranteed. That's with any of these young guys. But again, I don't hate Harper and I'm just fine with him being on this team.
But on another note, I'm confused on why y'all seem so quick to push Castle out of the way as if he couldn't/can't achieve all of these things that people speak about of Harper and be our point guard of the future. I guess because his play doesn't look as smooth?? As of right now, Harper appears to be a much more natural scorer but Castle is no slouch at creating his own shot or getting to the hole ither. We know he works hard on his game and has shown great improvement in it in just his second year and his top notch defense is already there. I guess Area 51 isn't a thing anymore, huh? This coming off a year of being the ROTY. Me personally, I felt like we had our PG of the future in Castle, which is why I questioned the pick. Especially since we just signed Fox to 4 years. That means that Harp can potentially be coming off the bench for those 3 or 4 years as the #2 pick and that makes no senses to me. No one can convince me that Kon wouldn't have been just as great a pick as well if we would've drafted him. We love Devin now but let's not forget that many wanted him gone up until this year. We needed shooting and we knew Kon was a sniper coming out of college. He could very well be Curry 2.0 in terms of just shooting the 3 ball. I'll take that as a "role player" compared to a guard that we already had 2 of.
You completely missed my line where I said "in terms of shooting the 3 ball," which he is showing he can be Curry 2.0. I'm not speaking about their play style. I'm speaking in terms of you absolutely cannot let him have any space to shoot it. Plus he has a nice midrange shot as well. But I would argue that even though Curry has shot creating abilities, most of his 3s came from screens from Draymond and not him creating them. Most, not all.
I think it was Dan Feldman and not Hollinger in the pod though.
Outside of him needing to clean up his turnovers, which comes with time, you can't tell me one good reason why he can't be the point guard of the future. His assists are up. His ability to finish at the basket is there. His ability to draw in the defense and kick out to open teammates is there. His defense is there. Right now I don't see one thing that Harper does spectacularly better than him. Yes his jumpshot needs to improve but so does Harper's.
Ah thanks, you're correct. Pain meds work, y'all
It's good to have a guy like this but it's much better to have 2 or 3 with Fox. With one guy great POA defender with a bit of help defense can shut dow offense, with two it's way harder and it's 48 minutes of elite playmaking. I'd love player like Kon, but he is just a role player. Elite one at shooting but still only a role player. We have enough shooting from Devin and Champs, hopefully our young guards will develop above average 3 (or at least one of them, most likely Harper). We need more size and shooting at 4 but I think even without it with constant development from young players and coaching staff this team can dominate NBA. Fuck it, they are doing it already!
Night and day is a stretch lol. And he's getting 7 man minutes because he was the the #2 pick. That kind of comes with being picked high. Castle is getting praise around the league for a reason. You guys are just eager to put Harper in the starting lineup. No need to knock the play and advancement of Castle's play in JUST his second year. It's not hard to understand. Although a 3rd penetrating guard is very valuable, we already had 2 that were pretty great at it. And a shooter who can space the floor is just as valuable as that type of guard that you speak of. Also we still need to remember that Victor will eventually become the main offensive engine of this team once he progresses more offensively, so people making seem Harper will just skip what Vic, Fox and Harper can do just seems to get overlooked. You can look at any other team at the top of the league and see how their great outside shooting has helped them this year.
I agree he wouldn't have the same usage rate but he would still be VERY effective while he was out there by all the metrics so far. Harper isn't a starter either btw. And it's crazy but we passed on a guy who is in the running to possibly be the ROTY as you mentioned lol. Will there be an outcry?If the Spurs passed on Harper to take Kon, Kon wouldn't be having the same usage he has on Charlotte. As @LeBowen said, he might not even be a starter. Meanwhile Harper would be the lead candidate for RoY.
Do you imagine the outcry here if we passed on the clear 2nd best prospect in the draft only for him to go on and win RoY somewhere else?
No, because Harper is the better player with very clearly the much higher ceiling. Kon is, at best, the third best player on a championship team. Harper is franchise level. If Dylan were in the nets right now, he would be averaging around 23 ppg and 7 apg.
One good reason why he can't be point guard of the future is because Dylan Harper is the point guard of the future. Castle is big enough to play small forward. Right now.
There's no doubt that Kon would fit the team better. But he's not the better talent and it would have been insane for the Spurs to take him with the second pick with Harper sitting there. Harper on a bad team would be destroying the world statistically right now.
If you're looking at the Rookie of the year award as a metric for players, you're not even watching Harper.
He is way better than what a lot of them here want to say but they're infatuated with Harper at the moment. Makes me think they have tunnel vision and really haven't watched 1 minute of Kon other than when he played the Spurs. It's ok to say both are great and have high ceilings, as do a few of the other drafted players.
