Player The restricted-age video store section of Dylan Harper

[PocketMonger]

Kon is also averaging 3.5 assists, we'd have him in that "don't move from the corner" Barnes role.

There are only so many touches and shots to go around. That's why trading for Lauri or Trey Murphy doesn't appeal to me at all. They aren't worth the price for the role they would be asked to play.

 

[LeBowen]

There are only so many touches and shots to go around. That's why trading for Lauri or Trey Murphy doesn't appeal to me at all. They aren't worth the price for the role they would be asked to play.

Noone is appealing to me as of now because using prime assets to accomodate a coach who looks to be completely out of his depth isn't something we should be doing.

 

[PocketMonger]

Nope. He’s Doug McDermott, part 2.

McDermott averaged 8.6 points per game for his career with a single season high of 13PPG. Kon is averaging 19/5 in his rookie season as a 20 year old with elite shooting splits. That's a dumb and insulting comparison to make. Your irrational hatred of non Spurs players is beyond weird.

 

[Exstatic]

McDermott averaged 8.6 points per game for his career with a single season high of 13PPG. Kon is averaging 19/5 in his rookie season as a 20 year old with elite shooting splits. That's a dumb and insulting comparison to make. Your irrational hatred of non Spurs players is beyond weird.

McDermott had a coach (Thibs) that hated him and refused to play him his first few years. Kon is getting all he can eat on a lottery team. The circumstances are different, but the players, not so much.

 

[PocketMonger]

Noone is appealing to me as of now because using prime assets to accomodate a coach who looks to be completely out of his depth isn't something we should be doing.

This team hasn't recovered from beating OKC three times in two weeks. They've been in a funk ever since. Symptoms of being a young team with an inexperienced head coach.

 

[Exstatic]

This team hasn't recovered from beating OKC three times in two weeks. They've been in a funk ever since. Symptoms of being a young team with an inexperienced head coach.

Last might, the Spurs had their full rotation available for the first time since 29 December.

 

[LeBowen]

McDermott had a coach (Thibs) that hated him and refused to play him his first few years. Kon is getting all he can eat on a lottery team. The circumstances are different, but the players, not so much.

Have you seen Kon play for more than a couple of games?
He basically doesn't make mistakes, looks like an elite decision maker.
Doesn't complicate things, nothing he does is fancy.
Can put the ball on the floor way better than McDermott ever did.

Last might, the Spurs had their full rotation available for the first time since 29 December.

I guess that's the excuse for being in a one possession game against Markkanen-less Jazz until the final 4 minutes.
Or losing against Pelicans at home.
Or losing to G-league Grizzlies.

 

[PocketMonger]

McDermott had a coach (Thibs) that hated him and refused to play him his first few years. Kon is getting all he can eat on a lottery team. The circumstances are different, but the players, not so much.

He played for Tibs for 3 seasons out 12. Still horrible and insulting comparison.

Kon has the best rookie season out of him Lauri and Jaren Jackson Jr. He's not too far behind Chet's rookie season too.

 

[brazil]

The Biwie/Jordan argument is so misrepresented. Bowie was picked #1 because he was the clear #1 coming out of college. It had nothing to do with fit vs need. Every team would've picked Bowie #1 at that time. Also nobody knew Jordan would become Jordan. The same way teams didn't know Jokić would become Jokić. This is a different situation than the Harper pick

Bottom line is, we have 3 guards who'll probably never play together as an unit for a long period of time because they can't shoot, which is going to clog up the paint or force Wemby to shoot from outside because all they can do is drive and kick out to him. So what's going to happen is one of these guys will eventually be traded for a better team fit in another position. No matter how good it may not sound, you're always building for fit. There are a ton of teams who have great talent but they suck as a team because the pieces don't fit. Which brings me back to my point, we could've gotten this fit in the draft and not have to worry about trading away one of these guys to find that fit.

Bowie was not a clear #1 pick, Hakeem was (duh). Bowie was a 10 10 2 blocks player while Jordan was a 20 5 2 assists, Portland picked Bowie because they had paxson and clyde and at the time and franchises were building around 7 footers. Jordan was regarded as the most talented guard of the draft by far. The Portland roster need and the era of you only win with a dominant big made Bowie #2 not because Bowie was regarded as having a higher ceiling than Jordan. There are explanations and justifications but Portland absolutely fucked up this draft. Bowie became exactly what was expected a 10 10 player, Portland chose the safe pick not counting on upside and got screwed.

Bottom line you draft the player you consider having the highest ceiling and that what the Spurs did. Right or wrong their choice is totally valid.

 

[dn0774]

Bowie was not a clear #1 pick, Hakeem was (duh). Bowie was a 10 10 2 blocks player while Jordan was a 20 5 2 assists, Portland picked Bowie because they had paxson and clyde and at the time and franchises were building around 7 footers. Jordan was regarded as the most talented guard of the draft by far. The Portland roster need and the era of you only win with a dominant big made Bowie #2 not because Bowie was regarded as having a higher ceiling than Jordan. There are explanations and justifications but Portland absolutely fucked up this draft. Bowie became exactly what was expected a 10 10 player, Portland chose the safe pick not counting on upside and got screwed.

Bottom line you draft the player you consider having the highest ceiling and that what the Spurs did. Right or wrong their choice is totally valid.

Worth mentioning Bowie also lied to team doctors about pain in his legs/knees leading up to the draft. The 80's were a different time lol.

 

[Raven_]

His USG% is 32.8. He’s getting the ball a ton,and he screws up a lot when he has it. I like Vic, but if there’s tunnel vision in the equation,it’s him not passing it out when triple teamed. I’d love for him to take 10 games, and just be a hub,just pass the ball out to Shooters and cutters.

who are these cutters, that you speak of...?

 

[DTW]

I'm not going to suddently question Harper's superior talent pedigree vis-a-vis Knueppel because of an unproven and unimaginative coach has decided to pull rank on a rookie player. If someone has to go because of fit it will be Fox first, then maybe Castle (doubt it) and probably Mitch before them all because he couldn't maximize this much talent at his disposal..Harper is the most obvious longterm Wemby sidekick we could have imagined-- a potential offensive engine unto himself. Him falling into our laps was a godsend gift. Spurs are the last franchise to trade Second Overall picks,

To me, the calculus isn't so much whether Harper has a higher offensive ceiling than Edgecombe, Knueppel, Fox or Castle, it's whether it's to such a degree that it should have eschewed the superior fit and additional asset(s) they'd have received for moving down for Edgecombe or Knueppel or that they'd receive over trading him instead of Fox.

There's at least a possibility that Harper and maybe some middling asset could be turned into Boozer or Wilson with some middling asset coming back. Whereas with Fox, that's probably going to be more of a salary dump.

Fox has also become a decent enough shooter to work with Castle offensively, something neither Castle or Harper are assured of considering they don't even have so much as mid range pull up or float games yet.

Considering all that, I'm not sure it makes sense to bet a significant portion of the Wembanyama era on.

 

[timtonymanu]

Future 2nd best player on the team, tbh.

 

[LeBowen]

It's that simple.

 

[spursistan]

Harper should be a 30-minute guy on this team,tbh.

 

[spursparker9]

He just have the winning vibes....like Manu

 

[Guru of Nothing]

Hope Mitch was paying attention.

 

[Mugen]

I felt bad for Sheppard after a while tbh.

 

[Rafa]

We should lock Mitch in a video room to replay the Harper minutes tonight over and over to understand his impact, not just on himself, but what it allows Castle to do

 

[MannyIG]

Harper is going to be the best PG in the NBA soon and people are debating if it was the right pick? What the actual fuck? The kid hit the rookie wall, struggled for a bit, and is clearly already coming out of it in the past week plus.

I don't know man, maybe I"m just old now, but coming here to read stupid takes is just not it. You don't have to be positive all the time but you also don't need to be the edgelord version of reddit. Just obviously stupid takes JFC.

 

[dastexan]

Good to see Dylan seeming to turn the corner. Needs to keep at it, but positive signs.

So silky smooth!

 

[Paramore]

He was magnificent today

 

[JingleJangleJingle]

he definitely got over the usual Dec-Jan rookie wall

 

[Raven_]

not in the rookie ladder is borderline jail worthy.. clearly a stud

 

[Paramore]