Player The restricted-age video store section of Dylan Harper

[OK Computer]

how many teams have relevant 3rd PGs?

None, because the Spurs are the first team to successfully do this formula. It is our hallmark advantage that few actually appreciate.

 

[spurraider21]

None, because the Spurs are the first team to successfully do this formula. It is our hallmark advantage that few actually appreciate.

all we really need is another 2/3 type tbh, and stagger castle/harper enough to make it work

assuming no garbage time (big assumption given how good this team looks and shoud look going forward), you need 48 minutes with a PG on the floor. assume that castle/harper each play 32 mpg.

the very rudimentary math is they each play 8 minutes per quarter... of which 4 of those minutes are them sharing the court, and 4 apiece as the sole lead guard, ie

Castle/Harper start the game together for the first 4 minutes
Harper goes to the bench and Castle plays PG for 4 minutes
Castle subs out, Harper subs in and plays PG for 4 minutes

and you basically just mix/match these rotations for each quarter of the game, probably closing the 4th with them both sharing the floor

 

[OK Computer]

all we really need is another 2/3 type tbh, and stagger castle/harper enough to make it work

assuming no garbage time (big assumption given how good this team looks and shoud look going forward), you need 48 minutes with a PG on the floor. assume that castle/harper each play 32 mpg.

the very rudimentary math is they each play 8 minutes per quarter... of which 4 of those minutes are them sharing the court, and 4 apiece as the sole lead guard, ie

Castle/Harper start the game together for the first 4 minutes
Harper goes to the bench and Castle plays PG for 4 minutes
Castle subs out, Harper subs in and plays PG for 4 minutes

and you basically just mix/match these rotations for each quarter of the game, probably closing the 4th with them both sharing the floor

I’d argue that having Fox (or a third PG) not only allowed us to have 48 minutes of elite PG play but also allowed more two-PG lineups. In your plan, it only allows 16 minutes of Castle-Harper lineups where it’s probably double that right now with combinations of Castle-Harper, Harper-Fox, Castle-Fox. These lineups keep the opposing team guessing and when one PG has a bad play, the other one takes over - that has happened a lot this season.

When you say “just get a 2/3”, I think it underestimates the skill of a real point guard. A 2/3 is kind of like Vassell, right? We’ve seen Vassell handle the ball a lot in previous seasons, and it’s night and day now when that ball is in a real point guard’s hands instead. Now, if you said to get a 2/3 with above average point guard skill then that would be different. But that is not that common. Maybe that’s where Dailyn Swain would be good for us, or if you looked at forwards who played point guard then Joshua Jefferson would be perfect.

 

[spurraider21]

I like Joshua Jefferson quite a bit, more than i like Swain for us

 

[LeBowen]

Finally played more than 30 minutes in a game.

 

[scott]

Welp, I lean realist over idealist. If Fox can’t stay because of the financial constraints, then so be it. It sucks because I see this team achieving 70 wins next year, and to lose Fox after that will be a huge blow.

Of course… if we’re coming off back to back titles and Fox is still performing at a high level… you just pay the lux tax. Breaking up winning teams is always “smartest guy in the room” energy that seems to backfire more often than not

 

[100%Duncan]

Of course… if we’re coming off back to back titles and Fox is still performing at a high level… you just pay the lux tax. Breaking up winning teams is always “smartest guy in the room” energy that seems to backfire more often than not

If you b2b, no way you dont keep the core and try a 3peat tbh.



Damn we’re already talking about b2bs and 3peats

 

[STAT88]

Would you guys still keep Fox when we’re going for the 4peat?

 

[kxs783]

Sorry, but you're out of your mind if you think Harper is going to still be coming off the bench in 3 or 4 years. Are we watching the same player?

So tell me who's getting replaced? My point exactly. You guys thinking a MAX player is coming off the bench as a 6th man or is getting traded after year 1, have to be the most delusional people ever lol. My God.

 

[LeBowen]

So tell me who's getting replaced? My point exactly. You guys thinking a MAX player is coming off the bench as a 6th man or is getting traded after year 1, have to be the most delusional people ever lol. My God.

You're so annoying with these whatoboutism scenarios before this roster even played it's first playoff game.
Come again with the same take after the 2027 playoffs are done and then we can talk because some of the guys considered to be key rotation pieces won't deliver and will be moved.
Until we see how this team does in the playoffs, making such claims with conviction is just I won't say dumb, but you get the point.

 

[Exstatic]

So tell me who's getting replaced? My point exactly.

With the way the young guards shooting is progressing, Vassell probably goes to the bench. You start all three, sit Fox after four minutes, replacing him with Vassell,and rotate the three so that two are always on the floor, then the last 6-8 minutes of the game, all three close it out.

 

[Rafa]

So tell me who's getting replaced? My point exactly. You guys thinking a MAX player is coming off the bench as a 6th man or is getting traded after year 1, have to be the most delusional people ever lol. My God.

TBH depending on how the next 3-4 years go, you can't see us trying to trade Fox? His $60M a year hit in 2029-30 is gonna be massive because at that point, Vic, Steph, and Harper will all be in non-rookie contracts. We'd likely have to get rid of one of those 4, and it's not gonna be Vic.... So unless Steph and/or Harper fall off a cliff, it's likely Fox.

Also, one of two things will occur in the next 3-4 years: (1) we win a title, Fox got his after coming here, we can part in good ways, or (2) we haven't, our salary is balloon'd, and it's understandable the team won't want to be in the 2nd apron trying for the 5th time with the same squad again

 

[kxs783]

Fox isn't getting traded, nor is he going to the bench next season. The only shot Harper has to start next session is play as a SF/PF since y'all say we're playing "positionless" basketball. It's pretty simple, really. Y'all wanted another Ginobli to come off the bench and we got him.

 

[kxs783]

TBH depending on how the next 3-4 years go, you can't see us trying to trade Fox? His $60M a year hit in 2029-30 is gonna be massive because at that point, Vic, Steph, and Harper will all be in non-rookie contracts. We'd likely have to get rid of one of those 4, and it's not gonna be Vic.... So unless Steph and/or Harper fall off a cliff, it's likely Fox.

Also, one of two things will occur in the next 3-4 years: (1) we win a title, Fox got his after coming here, we can part in good ways, or (2) we haven't, our salary is balloon'd, and it's understandable the team won't want to be in the 2nd apron trying for the 5th time with the same squad again

Oh for sure we'll be looking to move on from Fox around that time. But these guys are talking about trading or moving hin to the bench next season and that ain't happening.