Player The restricted-age video store section of Dylan Harper

If Steph/Dylan are even remotely competent from 3, the sky really is the limit with this team. Just totally changes the dynamic of our offense if they're shooting >35% from deep and punishing teams for leaving them open.

If you guaranteed me that they'd both continue shooting like this in the playoffs, then I legitimately think we have as good of a chance at OKC (or at least damn close) at winning a title.
I think Dylan's shooting is real. He shot .333 in college on 5+ shots a game. Never watch any but suspect it wasn't always the best shot selection.
Castle still makes me nervous. That said he's above .300 for the year.
 
I think Dylan's shooting is real. He shot .333 in college on 5+ shots a game. Never watch any but suspect it wasn't always the best shot selection.
Castle still makes me nervous. That said he's above .300 for the year.
I’m getting to the point where I feel pretty good about Castle or Harper taking catch and shoot 3s. The off the dribble 3s are what drag their percentages down from my eye. I don’t know where to pull those numbers from but would be curious to see them if someone who does know how is so inclined.

Im guessing the coaching staff has locked in on these trends and been in their ears. They can put in more work this off season and try more off the dribbles next year and see if their results improve. Wemby actually had the opposite issue, he shot them much better off the dribble and sucked at C&S when he first came over, not sure if he still has that issue.
 
Hopefully they are hitting their stride at the right time and not blowing their load too early and go cold in the playoffs
It's an encouraging sign. It shows that the Spurs are capable of a sustained stretch of great shooting. Most playoff runs don't last 15 games.
 
Wonder if he has a killer showing against Kon in a few days, weather he can still put himself in the ROY convo. Feels like the ship has sailed, but I don’t think he gets enough credit for being an ESSENTIAL cog in our machine.
Ship has sailed, for sure. He'll make an all-rookie team tho. Kon and Coop are just obviously killing it from eye-test AND stats (buoyed by playing time). I wouldn't say it's similar to the (genuinely silly) Chet vs Wemby ROTY debate, because Harper could genuinely wind up being the best of all of them and Chet never had a real chance to turn out better than Wemby. But I didn't think the 'contributing to a contender' narrative carried a lot of weight for ROTY back then, and I still don't.
Not in a year so stacked with really, really good rookies who have been 'given the keys' a little sooner than our Mr. Harper. But don't worry -- he'll get his. We all know what's up around here.
 
No Jaylen Brown.. If Jaylen stayed in the game, RHJ wont score as many..
I know he had a great game because JB was out, but I mentioned signing him for the Spurs' G-League team back in the off-season, but no one at ST was interested (was pretty much crickets). I thought he might be a good option as a backup SF/PF. He's had some big games in the G-League, so he's shown a little bit that he can shoot/has improved there. Would have been interesting to have the brothers together on the team, but it sounds like that they're now looking to make their own paths and not join up according to what they said at the all-star game.
 
I know he had a great game because JB was out, but I mentioned signing him for the Spurs' G-League team back in the off-season, but no one at ST was interested (was pretty much crickets). I thought he might be a good option as a backup SF/PF. He's had some big games in the G-League, so he's shown a little bit that he can shoot/has improved there. Would have been interesting to have the brothers together on the team, but it sounds like that they're now looking to make their own paths and not join up according to what they said at the all-star game.
I think Justin Champagnie has been available a couple of times, too. Sometimes, brothers just want to forge their own paths.
 
PG has often been cited as the most difficult position to master and there are very few point guards who just come in and be good immediately. Magic, cp3 and Jason Kidd come to mind but I remembered Payton was a disappointment coming into the league, Kevin Johnson took a few years (and a trade), mark price took a few years. Same with Stockton, and Nash. zeke was good but more as a scoring point at first, then took him a few years to learn, same with curry and of course our own Parker. Iverson stayed a scoring guard and I would say he never became a pg.

Point is Harper is showing point guard skills right off the gate, and I think his size and athleticism helps quite a bit in that regard. Hope he keeps developing.
 
I think Justin Champagnie has been available a couple of times, too. Sometimes, brothers just want to forge their own paths.
I think they would have been open to it at the start of the season when Ron Harper Jr. wasn't with any team (one of the mains reasons I wanted him on the Spurs' G-League team is that I thought he could live with Dylan and help ease his transition to the NBA), but it seems at the all-star game, they were pretty set on forging their own paths. I think one of them mentioned (I think it was RHJ) if they were to play together, they'd maybe do it at the end of their careers.
 
I’m getting to the point where I feel pretty good about Castle or Harper taking catch and shoot 3s.
You should; in the last 15 games Steph is shooting 42.9% on catch and shoot threes and Dylan 52.0%.



The off the dribble 3s are what drag their percentages down from my eye. I don’t know where to pull those numbers from but would be curious to see them if someone who does know how is so inclined.
You're right on the money here too. Both Dylan and Steph are shooting 0% on pull up threes in the last 15 games. Dylan taking 0.5 pull up threes a game and Steph 0.2 pull up threes a game in that stretch so Mitch seems to have drilled into them the pullup three is not their game, while Dylan is taking 1.8 catch and shoot threes and Steph 2.8 in that period.

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/pullup?LastNGames=15

If Steph/Dylan are even remotely competent from 3, the sky really is the limit with this team. Just totally changes the dynamic of our offense if they're shooting >35% from deep and punishing teams for leaving them open.

If you guaranteed me that they'd both continue shooting like this in the playoffs, then I legitimately think we have as good of a chance at OKC (or at least damn close) at winning a title.
If Steph and Dylan are going to be assassins on catch and shoot threes like they have been the last 15 games the Spurs are ringing unless Wemby gets hurt. That kind of shooting is insane and you could be looking at a 1999 Spurs kind of run through the postseason if they somehow stay that red hot from three. Because they're going to get those shots as teams sell out to limit Victor as well as throwing defenders at Dylan, Steph, and De'Aaron at the rim. I don't think it's reasonable to expect such incredibly hot shooting to hold but if it does OKC and anyone else is going down in 5.
 
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You should; in the last 15 games Steph is shooting 42.9% on catch and shoot threes and Dylan 52.0%.




You're right on the money here too. Both Dylan and Steph are shooting 0% on pull up threes in the last 15 games. Dylan taking 0.5 pull up threes a game and Steph 0.2 pull up threes a game in that stretch so Mitch seems to have drilled into them the pullup three is not their game, while Dylan is taking 1.8 catch and shoot threes and Steph 2.8 in that period.

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/pullup?LastNGames=15


If Steph and Dylan are going to be assassins on catch and shoot threes like they have been the last 15 games the Spurs are ringing unless Wemby gets hurt. That kind of shooting is insane and you could be looking at a 1999 Spurs kind of run through the postseason if they somehow stay that red hot from three. Because they're going to get those shots as teams sell out to limit Victor as well as throwing defenders at Dylan, Steph, and De'Aaron at the rim. I don't think it's reasonable to expect such incredibly hot shooting to hold but if it does OKC and anyone else is going down in 5.
a boy can dream...
 
its not even the minutes, its the role. he is often playing secondary ballhandler to fox/castle when out there. now if he was getting minutes AND clear lead guard duties during thos minutes, his production would be through the roolf. likely at the cost of efficiency, sure.
 
its not even the minutes, its the role. he is often playing secondary ballhandler to fox/castle when out there. now if he was getting minutes AND clear lead guard duties during thos minutes, his production would be through the roolf. likely at the cost of efficiency, sure.
I hate how it's already looking eerily similar to Harden OKC situation..You know he is just too talented and too good for his role and that he could spread his wings immediately if given the opportunity. Not sure when will it happen but the Harper vs Fox decision is going to have to be made eventually.
 
If Castle and Harper's recent catch and shoot 3PT% is for real, the hydra lineup becomes much more viable. Those three plus Wemby and Champ (or even better, an actualized Bryant) would be a hell of a lineup with no glaring weak link on offense or defense.
 
I don't care what you nerds think, Harper is gonna be in the MVP conversation someday tbh.
Harper has star player written all over him. Just by the eye test he sees the court extremely well and plays with terrific pace most of the time. Incredible that he is a rookie and has the poise and maturity of a 10 year vet.
 
Harper, Castle and of course Wemby we must hold on to. Harper is special. His efficiency is through the roof. He makes very few mistakes and is always making great decisions.
 
I hate how it's already looking eerily similar to Harden OKC situation..You know he is just too talented and too good for his role and that he could spread his wings immediately if given the opportunity. Not sure when will it happen but the Harper vs Fox decision is going to have to be made eventually.
Give it a playoff run first before we crown Dylan as a future MVP sort of talent, tbh. I like the guy and etc, but plenty rookies have looked great in their first RS that couldn't elevate their games (not saying it's looked likely, just, give it time).

Overall, I can't see the Spurs repeating that mistake, simply because Harper was such a touted pick and asset. Pop once told Boban to "go get that bag" but I don't see the org handling Harper that way at all. Besides the obvious - every Harden OKC mistake creates massive ripples through the NBA exec circles, they were obviously aware of the future constraints Fox made on the team when they selected Dylan with the #2 pick, yet selected and invested in him anyway instead of trading down.
 
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