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Kick-Stand said:
Gotta say I don't like that at all. I hate paying for things with credit card and especially impulse purchases like if I want some overpriced nachos at the game. If I have to hand over real bills it makes me question the opportunity cost when I buy something whereas with plastic it's like I want, turn off brain, just buy. Can't say I want some tech bros wet dream of an arena, all I want is good sight lines and reasonable parking. Get the former at Frost Bank Center even when I have sat in the very last row of the arena but definitely don't get the latter. Ugh I hate that Via doesn't do Park and Ride any more, used to love going and parking at Randolph Blvd and then just walk five minutes to the bus after the game as opposed to pissing away $25 on parking to wait 45 minutes to get out of there.
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Man driving to any sporting event is already a giant L, IMO. Metro drops me off under the capital one arena and when its over I am home in 15 minutes. In San Antonio I would still be in the parking lot. Soccer matches here are a bit longer because of a walk and I have to switch trains, but still way better. Same thing for Nats games although fuck baseball.
 
Exstatic said:
Aldacos also used to do a trolley to the game. It was $5 to park at Sunset Station,and your meal validated that,and got you on the bus trolley. They literally stopped in the middle of the playoffs one year.
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When I lived in King William - shit back in 2006ish - I would take the park and ride from downtown and that was fairly fast too. I drive whenever I go to games in SA now and I fucking hate it. The wait to get out of the parking lot just kills it.
 
MannyIG said:
Man driving to any sporting event is already a giant L, IMO. Metro drops me off under the capital one arena and when its over I am home in 15 minutes. In San Antonio I would still be in the parking lot. Soccer matches here are a bit longer because of a walk and I have to switch trains, but still way better. Same thing for Nats games although fuck baseball.
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Driving anywhere is a giant L. It's particularly bad now with these stupid decks built on I-35 that slow traffic for years during construction and within a year after their eventual opening will probably induce so much demand they'll make driving it worse than before like we see with I-10 through Katy. On the weekends when they shut down a couple of lanes of I-35 it literally becomes LA rush hour on the 405 levels of awful to drive on and I don't say that lightly having lived half a mile from 405.
 
Kick-Stand said:
Driving anywhere is a giant L. It's particularly bad now with these stupid decks built on I-35 that slow traffic for years during construction and within a year after their eventual opening will probably induce so much demand they'll make driving it worse than before like we see with I-10 through Katy. On the weekends when they shut down a couple of lanes of I-35 it literally becomes LA rush hour on the 405 levels of awful to drive on and I don't say that lightly having lived half a mile from 405.
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Wait until LeBron finds out it costs $30 to look inside a Nashville parking garage that's totally blocked off by Bachelorette Party Buses dropping off sidewalk stopping swarms.
 
I am thinking when the spurs move back downtown they will offer park n ride. that is my guess. They stopped offering it because they had so much parking at the ATT/SBC/Frost center that many people did not ride so did not work for them. I am also hoping that with Randolph being redone that they will offer rides to UTSA games but my hope for that is less then them offering to the spurs games when they move downtown.
 
talkspurs said:
I am thinking when the spurs move back downtown they will offer park n ride. that is my guess. They stopped offering it because they had so much parking at the ATT/SBC/Frost center that many people did not ride so did not work for them. I am also hoping that with Randolph being redone that they will offer rides to UTSA games but my hope for that is less then them offering to the spurs games when they move downtown.
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Seemed like the park and ride died when the team went to shit after #2 forced his way out. Can't believe they haven't revived it since getting Wemby.
 
Kick-Stand said:
Seemed like the park and ride died when the team went to shit after #2 forced his way out. Can't believe they haven't revived it since getting Wemby.
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Agree. Such a terrible location for an arena. Once the team is back downtown, this will be remembered as a dark era for Spurs fans.
 
scott said:
Cool article about "The Wall" at Intuit Dome, something I hope provides some inspiration for a Jackal's Section at the new arena:

www.espn.com

Inside the Clippers' Wall: How 4,500 fans turn the Intuit Dome into chaos

Built to disrupt, the Intuit Dome's most intense section affects games in real time by turning fans into participants -- and opponents into targets.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
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One mistake imo is that they put the Wall on the wrong side of the court. Visiting teams just about always choose to play defense in front of their bench in the second half, so the Wall can only disrupt the visitors offense, and more importantly free throws, in the first half.

If the Wall were on the other side I guess a visiting team could choose to play defense in front of their bench in the first half, but they would sacrifice the familiarity of the normal way.
 
Seventyniner said:
One mistake imo is that they put the Wall on the wrong side of the court. Visiting teams just about always choose to play defense in front of their bench in the second half, so the Wall can only disrupt the visitors offense, and more importantly free throws, in the first half.

If the Wall were on the other side I guess a visiting team could choose to play defense in front of their bench in the first half, but they would sacrifice the familiarity of the normal way.
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I had wondered this... do visiting teams chose which direction they play?
 
scott said:
I had wondered this... do visiting teams chose which direction they play?
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I'm pretty sure they do. I heard a podcast with Voulgaris who said he made a bunch of money betting the over in first halves and the under in second halves cause teams nearly always want to play defense in front of their bench in the second half so their coaches can call stuff out etc, and that it worked in that second halves were consistently lower scoring than first halves. This was 20 plus years ago when the over/under for each half was just half of the total.

He also saw that there were a couple of teams, the Jazz were one of them, who consistently chose the other direction so he would reverse his over/under bets for each half on those teams.
 
Seventyniner said:
I'm pretty sure they do. I heard a podcast with Voulgaris who said he made a bunch of money betting the over in first halves and the under in second halves cause teams nearly always want to play defense in front of their bench in the second half so their coaches can call stuff out etc, and that it worked in that second halves were consistently lower scoring than first halves. This was 20 plus years ago when the over/under for each half was just half of the total.

He also saw that there were a couple of teams, the Jazz were one of them, who consistently chose the other direction so he would reverse his over/under bets for each half on those teams.
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I remember back in the day hearing specifically that Pop liked to be on the defending side in the second half - but I never knew how this was determined. Honestly seems like the kind of thing that should be up to the home team to decide (as part of home court advantage). But I guess not!
 
scott said:
I remember back in the day hearing specifically that Pop liked to be on the defending side in the second half - but I never knew how this was determined. Honestly seems like the kind of thing that should be up to the home team to decide (as part of home court advantage). But I guess not!
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Thanks to the power of AI, I was able to find the rule rather quickly.
https://official.nba.com/rule-no-4-definitions/

Section I—Basket/Backboard

a. A team’s basket consists of the basket ring and net through which its players try to
shoot the ball. The visiting team has the choice of baskets for the first half. The basket
selected by the visiting team when it first enters onto the court shall be its basket for the first
half.
b. The teams change baskets for the second half. All overtime periods are considered
extensions of the second half.
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I don't know how neutral site games like the NBA Cup semifinals and finals work. I guess they just flip a coin? It doesn't make much of a difference who is designated as home and away anyway.
 
Seventyniner said:
Thanks to the power of AI, I was able to find the rule rather quickly.
https://official.nba.com/rule-no-4-definitions/


I don't know how neutral site games like the NBA Cup semifinals and finals work. I guess they just flip a coin? It doesn't make much of a difference who is designated as home and away anyway.
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I think all of the cup games, except the final, have an assigned home and away team if they’re neutral site, so that all teams have 41 home and 41 away games. I would imagine that the cup final probably is a coin flip.
 
A reason why Intuit dome is able to have that kind of seating is that the arena can't be turned into an ice hockey rink. It allowed them to build stands closer to the court. Spurs should do the same with their new arena given that San Antonio isn't at all a hockey city (correct me if I'm wrong on that).

I also wonder if Spurs aren't waiting mid term elections to see if the land bridge that requires federal funding could be put back on track.
 
Bruno said:
A reason why Intuit dome is able to have that kind of seating is that the arena can't be turned into an ice hockey rink. It allowed them to build stands closer to the court. Spurs should do the same with their new arena given that San Antonio isn't at all a hockey city (correct me if I'm wrong on that).

I also wonder if Spurs aren't waiting mid term elections to see if the land bridge that requires federal funding could be put back on track.
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San Antonio has had 3 professional (minor league) Hockey teams over the years, and all of them have gone defunct or been sold and moved. The Rampage were the last one, and got sold off to the Vegas Knights and moved to Nevada (only a few years after the Stars were also sold to Vegas).

Maybe someone who is still local can enlighten me... is Marvel also been proposed as a home for the Rodeo or will that stay at the FBC? I hope so, so we can kill off the Rodeo Road Trip (which has galvanized us at times over the years... but really is a competitive disadvantage). I don't recall that Marvel is proposed to be used for any other sports teams, which would pave the way for a "Wall" like seating section.
 
scott said:
San Antonio has had 3 professional (minor league) Hockey teams over the years, and all of them have gone defunct or been sold and moved. The Rampage were the last one, and got sold off to the Vegas Knights and moved to Nevada (only a few years after the Stars were also sold to Vegas).

Maybe someone who is still local can enlighten me... is Marvel also been proposed as a home for the Rodeo or will that stay at the FBC? I hope so, so we can kill off the Rodeo Road Trip (which has galvanized us at times over the years... but really is a competitive disadvantage). I don't recall that Marvel is proposed to be used for any other sports teams, which would pave the way for a "Wall" like seating section.
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The FBC facilities will be ceded to the Rodeo, and they will have the whole complex.

I personally look forward the the nearly inevitable ASG at the new arena.
 
scott said:
San Antonio has had 3 professional (minor league) Hockey teams over the years, and all of them have gone defunct or been sold and moved. The Rampage were the last one, and got sold off to the Vegas Knights and moved to Nevada (only a few years after the Stars were also sold to Vegas).

Maybe someone who is still local can enlighten me... is Marvel also been proposed as a home for the Rodeo or will that stay at the FBC? I hope so, so we can kill off the Rodeo Road Trip (which has galvanized us at times over the years... but really is a competitive disadvantage). I don't recall that Marvel is proposed to be used for any other sports teams, which would pave the way for a "Wall" like seating section.
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The rodeo is staying at Frost Bank Center. One of the big selling points in the arena deal was that they could do the rodeo year round with complete control of FBC.
 
Kick-Stand said:
Seemed like the park and ride died when the team went to shit after #2 forced his way out. Can't believe they haven't revived it since getting Wemby.
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I am pretty sure it died well before him. I was thinking maybe in 2007 or so. I cant remember exactly where it was but it has been gone for awhile. I do agree that when they move back downtown it will come back.
 
TBH, while the Alamodome was a shit place to watch basketball,it had a built in underground transportation hub. ATT,SBC,FBC just never had that place for buses to drop and pick up thousands in a short period.
 
Exstatic said:
TBH, while the Alamodome was a shit place to watch basketball,it had a built in underground transportation hub. ATT,SBC,FBC just never had that place for buses to drop and pick up thousands in a short period.
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It does? Never heard of that.
 
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