Giannis Antetokounmpo Trade Watch

[Kick-Stand]

Supposedly, post game, Wemby said something to the effect of “nah, we’re good here,bro”. Doesn’t seem like a recruiting pitch to me.

source?

 

[NotRobDiaz21]

source?

His ass

 

[WembyFan]

Antetokounmpo can play when Wemby is injured and vice versa, it's a win, win.

 

[Exstatic]

source?

There was a short post game social media video posted where Wemby didn’t cover his mouth for part of it. That’s automatically lip reading territory, and someone did.

 

[Exstatic]

Antetokounmpo can play when Wemby is injured and vice versa, it's a win, win.

Until you have to pay the tax bill, trades become nearly impossible, and your picks are frozen from trades, and automatically pushed to the end of the round. Not so much winning, then.

 

[scott]

or

https://twitter.com/x/status/2012003766174957599

Supposedly, post game, Wemby said something to the effect of “nah, we’re good here,bro”. Doesn’t seem like a recruiting pitch to me.

Have you actually seen any credible reason to believe Wemby said this to Giannis, or are you basing this off a joke tweet?

 

[Shmurs]

With Giannis I think of the 35% max contract on a depreciating talent on the wrong side of 30 who gets hurt a lot. I think of having to say goodbye to not only Harper in trade but also Castle when he's up for extension in two years since now you're paying a 35% deal to Giannis, a 30% deal to Fox, and a 30% deal to Wemby. I think of two alphas who are going to get in each others' way offensively. I think damn I miss this team's former depth and I think how much a failure trading for Durant was for Phoenix.

No evidence of his talent or impact depreciating. He is both stuffing the box score and driving a shit load of material impact. His on/off numbers and the bucks record with/without him are staggering.

He is injured too often but when he’s right, he’s as good as ever.

 

[Ice009]

With Giannis I think of the 35% max contract on a depreciating talent on the wrong side of 30 who gets hurt a lot. I think of having to say goodbye to not only Harper in trade but also Castle when he's up for extension in two years since now you're paying a 35% deal to Giannis, a 30% deal to Fox, and a 30% deal to Wemby. I think of two alphas who are going to get in each others' way offensively. I think damn I miss this team's former depth and I think how much a failure trading for Durant was for Phoenix.

I don't agree. The main issue I'd have is if he's out injured, but as I said, I think he won't have to carry as big of a load here. In any case, I don't think I want to give up any of the young guys. I don't think I want to give up the Spurs' future for a gamble, and this one would be a pretty big sized gamble. It could pay off and be amazing, but if it doesn't pay off, Spurs' future is in the dumps and they could end up in the vicinity of where the Bucks are now.

Supposedly, post game, Wemby said something to the effect of “nah, we’re good here,bro”. Doesn’t seem like a recruiting pitch to me.

There's no way Victor would have said that to Giannis. If Giannis is genuinely asking Victor about the Spurs, Victor would not have used those words with him IMO, and he likely has that conversation elsewhere.

No evidence of his talent or impact depreciating. He is both stuffing the box score and driving a shit load of material impact. His on/off numbers and the bucks record with/without him are staggering.

He is injured too often but when he’s right, he’s as good as ever.

Yep, injuries are the main thing I'd be worried about, but when he's on the court, he's a beast.

 

[O_V]

Giannis just turned 31, I think he'll be on MVP level for at least 4 more playoffs...if healthy.
Age 31-32-33-34 seems reasonable.
And after that he'll still probably be a solid all-star.

Injuries excluded, MVP level wings and bigs don't decline that much until their mid-late 30s.

Giannis is also a smart player who doesn't have to rely on athleticism. He could be an effective defender and role player well into his thirties, especially with a winning team that keeps him interested.

 

[O_V]

Have you actually seen any credible reason to believe Wemby said this to Giannis, or are you basing this off a joke tweet?

Yeah his mouth is not visible at all through this. Someone made up that caption yo be funny.

 

[KobesAchilles]

Who the fuck would have ever said that?

They were saying that there were too many shooters. Only one basketball. KD was too skinny to play the 4 man. They literally asked Klay if he was going to shoot less now that KD was there and his response was why would I do that. Then people were saying they should trade Klay for more size. It as a thing man

 

[Kick-Stand]

No evidence of his talent or impact depreciating. He is both stuffing the box score and driving a shit load of material impact. His on/off numbers and the bucks record with/without him are staggering.

He is injured too often but when he’s right, he’s as good as ever.

Of course Giannis is a depreciating asset, he's 31. Plus he plays a style that depends on athleticism; he doesn't have an old man game like Jokic or Duncan that's likely to age as gracefully. Then players in their 30s get paid the absolute max while not being the same guys they were in their 20s. Sorry I'm out. It would be one thing if this core was just Wemby, Sochan, and Vassell. Then I'd be all for dumping picks and trying to win one or two titles in the next 4-5 years. But this core is stacked and built for success both in the short and long term. All this team needs is internal growth and a power forward. Besides, Wemby is still not SGA or Jokic where you can just tell him hey go get me a bucket with 30 seconds left in the fourth. So the team isn't ready to make an all-in move like that anyways unless it was their only option. Wemby will be that guy in a year or two as he puts on more size and Harper probably in four.

 

[Kick-Stand]

They were saying that there were too many shooters. Only one basketball. KD was too skinny to play the 4 man. They literally asked Klay if he was going to shoot less now that KD was there and his response was why would I do that. Then people were saying they should trade Klay for more size. It as a thing man

No one in his right mind thought adding one of the most versatile players in NBA history to a 73 win team was going to be bad. And how can you have too many shooters? We saw how devastating KD was on a team with a ball hawk like Westbrook dribbling the air out of the ball, it was crystal clear Durant would be completely unguardable on a team like the Warriors that valued ball movement.

 

[KobesAchilles]

No one in his right mind thought adding one of the most versatile players in NBA history to a 73 win team was going to be bad. And how can you have too many shooters? We saw how devastating KD was on a team with a ball hawk like Westbrook dribbling the air out of the ball, it was crystal clear Durant would be completely unguardable on a team like the Warriors that valued ball movement.

Right mind or not those were the criticisms. They asked Klay about him sacrificing his shots and responded like I ain’t sacrificing shit or something like that. It started this whole tailspin of gotta trade Klay. Bad chemistry. Too many mouths to feed.

Then the obviously started dominating and it all that went away. The point is that Giannis and Wemby are both too good to worry about things like they aren’t a perfect fit. Plenty of teams have won that don’t have perfect fit and I can’t think of any combination of 2 top 5 players in the league never winning a championship together if not multiple.

Kobe Shaq= 3
KD Steph= 2
Jordan Pippen= 6
Magic Kareem= 5
Wade LeBron= 2

Top 5 players just win rings together the few times they play together

 

[Corso]

They were saying that there were too many shooters. Only one basketball. KD was too skinny to play the 4 man. They literally asked Klay if he was going to shoot less now that KD was there and his response was why would I do that. Then people were saying they should trade Klay for more size. It as a thing man

It was never a thing. You listen too hard to outliers, apparently.

 

[Kick-Stand]

Right mind or not those were the criticisms. They asked Klay about him sacrificing his shots and responded like I ain’t sacrificing shit or something like that. It started this whole tailspin of gotta trade Klay. Bad chemistry. Too many mouths to feed.

Then the obviously started dominating and it all that went away. The point is that Giannis and Wemby are both too good to worry about things like they aren’t a perfect fit. Plenty of teams have won that don’t have perfect fit and I can’t think of any combination of 2 top 5 players in the league never winning a championship together if not multiple.

Kobe Shaq= 3
KD Steph= 2
Jordan Pippen= 6
Magic Kareem= 5
Wade LeBron= 2

Top 5 players just win rings together the few times they play together

Those were all perfect fits other than Bron and Wade and Bron+Wade got skullfucked by a deep team that fit more well together and we have one of those in the conference right up I-35.

 

[O_V]

KD joined a 73 win team. Nobody thought they were gonna do anything but win.

AI and Carmelo, however...

 

[Ice009]

Right mind or not those were the criticisms. They asked Klay about him sacrificing his shots and responded like I ain’t sacrificing shit or something like that. It started this whole tailspin of gotta trade Klay. Bad chemistry. Too many mouths to feed.

Then the obviously started dominating and it all that went away. The point is that Giannis and Wemby are both too good to worry about things like they aren’t a perfect fit. Plenty of teams have won that don’t have perfect fit and I can’t think of any combination of 2 top 5 players in the league never winning a championship together if not multiple.

Kobe Shaq= 3
KD Steph= 2
Jordan Pippen= 6
Magic Kareem= 5
Wade LeBron= 2

Top 5 players just win rings together the few times they play together

I remember this now. I do remember Klay saying he's not giving up shots. Forgot all about that.

Not sure what you guys are on about. This stuff was said when he joined the Warriors. They didn't say they'd lose, but some did think there might be issues.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

[Windhorst] There are finished deals on hold and trade progressions on hold because several teams are waiting to see if Giannis Antetokounmpo ultimately asks out of Milwaukee.

He's been pretty outspoken about not requesting a trade, but maybe Wemby "the Whisperer" got to him...?

It’s 100% fine if he asks out. He did everything in Milwaukee. He should be beloved there for the rest of his life no matter what.

 

[O_V]

I remember this now. I do remember Klay saying he's not giving up shots. Forgot all about that.

Not sure what you guys are on about. This stuff was said when he joined the Warriors. They didn't say they'd lose, but some did think there might be issues.

The Spurs crushed them on opening night. That got the vultures circling early.

 

[KobesAchilles]

Those were all perfect fits other than Bron and Wade and Bron+Wade got skullfucked by a deep team that fit more well together and we have one of those in the conference right up I-35.

Except they weren’t. Just bc you say so doesn’t make it true. Magic and Kareem were opposite types of players. Magic was the best run and gun player of all time and Kareem was a slow the down post up player. Their styles didn’t mesh at all. Magic himself said so. It’s literally why they fired their coach even after winning a championship. But they were both cerebral about the game and put away their ego and learned to play together.

MJ and Pippen only worked together bc of Phil. The triangle forced them to play well together. Before the Triangle Jordan didn’t play well with anyone (sharing wise).Without the Triangle there really is no Jordan being a winner like he was. They were both wing players who operated in the same area and both needed the ball offensively in literally the same spots. Much like Giannis and Wemby supposedly. But they were both defensive monsters, put aside their egos to win, and played amazingly well together. And they had an offensive system catered to their strengths.

LeBron and Wade same as Pip and Jordan.

KD, Steph, and Klay were said that they were going to have to sacrifice for each other. But none of them did bc again Kerr put in an offensive system to ensure that they didnt. You can say well he joined a 73 win team and that’s why it was easy for them but that’s kinda the point. It almost never happens for 2 current top 5 players to play together in their prime. And when it does it leads to championships. Plural.

Giannis is a top 5 player. Wemby is a top 5 player. It will work and it will bring championships. History says so.

 

[Kick-Stand]

1. Except they weren’t. Just bc you say so doesn’t make it true. Magic and Kareem were opposite types of players. Magic was the best run and gun player of all time and Kareem was a slow the down post up player. Their styles didn’t mesh at all. Magic himself said so. It’s literally why they fired their coach even after winning a championship. But they were both cerebral about the game and put away their ego and learned to play together.

2. MJ and Pippen only worked together bc of Phil. The triangle forced them to play well together. Before the Triangle Jordan didn’t play well with anyone (sharing wise).Without the Triangle there really is no Jordan being a winner like he was. They were both wing players who operated in the same area and both needed the ball offensively in literally the same spots. Much like Giannis and Wemby supposedly. But they were both defensive monsters, put aside their egos to win, and played amazingly well together. And they had an offensive system catered to their strengths.

3. LeBron and Wade same as Pip and Jordan.

4. KD, Steph, and Klay were said that they were going to have to sacrifice for each other. But none of them did bc again Kerr put in an offensive system to ensure that they didnt. You can say well he joined a 73 win team and that’s why it was easy for them but that’s kinda the point. It almost never happens for 2 current top 5 players to play together in their prime. And when it does it leads to championships. Plural.

5. Giannis is a top 5 player. Wemby is a top 5 player. It will work and it will bring championships. History says so.

1. Um Kareem was an A-level option in the post whenever the Lakers got drawn into a halfcourt possession. They didn't fire their coach after winning a title because they won that title running McKinney's offense. They fired Westhead after losing to a weak Houston team because he was running high school bullshit where everyone had a set spot to go to on offense making them ridiculously predictable. I'm the biggest Kareem hater on the board but they didn't want him gone until the late 80s when he was fading fast.

2. Pippen was effectively a monster point guard, Jordan was a finisher. And Jordan didn't pass to anyone before Pippen because he played with nobodies. Yeah let's feed Orlando Woolridge while he's strung out on cocaine. And then Dave Corzine's a terror in the post.

3. LOL no Wade was a finisher who had to sacrifice shots for Bron. Just like Wemby will have to for Giannis.

4. Oh good Mitch can put in an offensive system to turn Giannis into KD from the perimeter.

5. Look at all those banners Kawhi and PG13 hung up in Staples.

 

[KobesAchilles]

1. Um Kareem was an A-level option in the post whenever the Lakers got drawn into a halfcourt possession. They didn't fire their coach after winning a title because they won that title running McKinney's offense. They fired Westhead after losing to a weak Houston team because he was running high school bullshit where everyone had a set spot to go to on offense making them ridiculously predictable. I'm the biggest Kareem hater on the board but they didn't want him gone until the late 80s when he was fading fast.

2. Pippen was effectively a monster point guard, Jordan was a finisher. And Jordan didn't pass to anyone before Pippen because he played with nobodies. Yeah let's feed Orlando Woolridge while he's strung out on cocaine. And then Dave Corzine's a terror in the post.

3. LOL no Wade was a finisher who had to sacrifice shots for Bron. Just like Wemby will have to for Giannis.

4. Oh good Mitch can put in an offensive system to turn Giannis into KD from the perimeter.

5. Look at all those banners Kawhi and PG13 hung up in Staples.

So much is wrong with your post it’s hard to find where to start.

1. No they fired Westhead bc he refused to run and gun like Magic wanted to and to play through Kareem. Magic was so frustrated he demanded a trade. And no shit Kareem was good. That’s literally my whole point. When top 5 players team up they win.

2. Pippen wasn’t a monster point guard. He could initiate the offense for sure but so did Jordan. And again they operated on the same part of the floor. They both were heavy midrange players who liked to attack the rim. Neither one could shoot the three worth shit. Their shot charts are amazingly similar.

3. Wade sacrificed all of one shot for LeBron when they rang in 2012. I don’t know how he handled such a sacrifice with such class and dignity but man it really makes me respect him more as a player to see him willing to forgo his touches like that for LeBron (blue font).

4. Coming up with an offensive system to cater to your best players is literally the coaches job. So yeah Mitch would have to do that.

5. When tf was PG13 a top 5 player in the league? We have different definitions of greatness if you’re including Paul fucking George.

Dude just stop. I posted facts. You posted garbage. The facts are, besides 1969 (with West and Baylor) when two top 5 players are paired together they fucking win championships. I don’t know how you can even argue otherwise. I’d love to see it. Just don’t bring up Paul George again

 

[scott]

5. When tf was PG13 a top 5 player in the league?

Probably in 2018-19 when he finished 3rd in MVP voting, 3rd in DPOY voting, made the All NBA 1st team and All Defensive 1st team... which is exactly when The Clippers traded for him.

 

[Paramore]

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