Giannis Antetokounmpo Trade Watch

[mo7888]

On the Atlanta/ Gianis talk, while I dont think it'll happen, if it does i wouldn't mind seeing us trying to get Vit and Kennard out of the deal using the Atlanta pick to get it done. It'll be worth crap by then anyway and it would really help spread the floor.

I'd prefer that to giving up our core in the sweepstakes..

 

[Kick-Stand]

Wemby, Harper, Castle is Tim, Tony, Manu all over again. 15 year run. In hindsight it was good that we didn't trade Tony for Jason Kidd.

I think I'd frame it more like De'Aaron, Dylan, Steph, Wemby is like having Tony, Manu, Alvin Roberston, and David together on one team. It's pretty fierce.

 

[SpursBills]

Agree, but I also think ATL will want to see what comes of that pick. Peterson would instantly complete their team for example.

The other issue is i dont think MIL wants Trae Young. As bizzare as it sounds, I think even Dev has more of a market than him right now. Those pending extension talks seem painful.

I don't even know who in the league would want a small heliocentric guard who can't play defense and can't play off-ball in today's NBA, especially at a max salary. Trae's next contract is going to be very interesting to monitor - I think his market is way smaller than it would appear at first.

Off top of my head, maybe Bucks can reroute him to Memphis for an Orlando pick and Ja, then try and dump Ja for another pick.
Orlando would have been a good destination for Trae before the Bane trade.
Maybe Brooklyn wants someone who can sell tickets and has a history with the Knicks to stoke that rivalry, but they just drafted a million ball handlers that they need to develop
Wizards maybe if they don't score Peterson and don't draft a guard
Raptors are a possibility but they're doing fine running a philosophy similar to the Trae-less hawks where scoring comes from everywhere and they don't give up much size at any position

 

[NASpurs]

I think I'd frame it more like De'Aaron, Dylan, Steph, Wemby is like having Tony, Manu, Alvin Roberston, and David together on one team. It's pretty fierce.

Is Sochan the jizz dripping down Madonna's leg provided by Rodman?

 

[Area 51.247]

I think I'd frame it more like De'Aaron, Dylan, Steph, Wemby is like having Tony, Manu, Alvin Roberston, and David together on one team. It's pretty fierce.

Definitely better than the Mavericks highly anticipated 'Three J's' lineup of Jason Kidd, Jimmy Jackson, and Jamal Mashburn that quickly fell apart from jealousy and infighting, or so it's said. Culture and character play a big role in success.

 

[Chinook]

I'm pretty open about my disdain for Antetokounmpo. He'd instantly rise to the top of my most-hated Spurs of all time if they trade for him. So I'm REALLLLY hoping they aren't actually talking with the Bucks. I don't think anything about this year should encourage the Spurs to be trading their depth or future assets for a win-now player. So many fans of other teams are salivating over the idea of a Fox/Giannis/Wemby when the team should be focusing on getting a roster that makes the Fox/Wemby duo work the best and create an environment to develop Castle, Harper and Bryant.

So for me, all firsts and rotation players really aren't on the table. That might change as we approach the deadline. But the team is legit seeing what they have when they're actually letting their guys win. I'm glad the team didn't pull a bigger trigger leading up to this, because we're seeing what Vassell, Champagnie and Johnson actually look like on a serious team, and they look about as good as we could have hoped. It would be nice to see how they and everyone else look in the playoffs before deciding that they aren't good enough.

It's really hard to see the Spurs winning this year, regardless of any trades. The first and second rounds are already realistic goals as is. So they should stick with their plan rather than derailing themselves in hopes they injured stars can carry a depleted roster into the WCF or Finals.

 

[DPGSpurs]

A new snippet from Jake Fischer and Stein:

“
The Spurs, though, might not be the automatic Giannis destination they are routinely painted to be. Just as the Bucks were unwilling to entertain Giannis trade inquiries before last June's draft, various sources with knowledge of San Antonio's thinking staunchly maintained that the Spurs were thoroughly unwilling to surrender the No. 2 overall pick that became Dylan Harper. They were also equally against the idea of parting with Stephon Castle, too. Even for Giannis.

There has been little indication to date that the Spurs are any more willing now to consider parting with their prized young guards.”

 

[Spurs Homer]

Doc Rivers says Giannis has never asked or mentioned anything about leaving the bucks and that they talk every single day and Giannis loves the bucks, the city of milwaukee and his teammates.

/thread

 

[DPGSpurs]

Ya - I dont think it’s a given Giannis gets traded this season at all. Until we hear more firm news on him actually demanding a trade and then after that seeing what his list of team(s) are? Really nothing you can build realistically

 

[100%Duncan]

Ya - I dont think it’s a given Giannis gets traded this season at all. Until we hear more firm news on him actually demanding a trade and then after that seeing what his list of team(s) are? Really nothing you can build realistically

I mean if there’s smoke there’s fire. I dont believe Doc one bit

 

[Corso]

Just call me notsocutewizard

I remember when she showed herself in her avi. Her and Bluebellmaniac.

If that was them, they were cute.

 

[DPGSpurs]

I mean if there’s smoke there’s fire. I dont believe Doc one bit

No doubt theres fire - just saying I don’t think it’s a complete “lock” that it happens this season. But no one should be shocked obviously if it does.

 

[scott]

Real talk: if you are the Bucks org, and assuming the other teams (SA. HOU, OKC) with coveted assets are not interested in messing up what they've going, how would you not to try hard and talk Giannis into Atlanta as the most mutually beneficial landing spot for both of you?

That Pelicans pick is by far the juiciest draft asset available in the market. That should be Bucks number 1 priority in a potential haul; take flyer on Risacher maybe turning into something, take and reroute Trae for more draft capital from team willing to extend him..The Hawks, unfortunately for us, is the most logical Giannis trade destination

I think you perfectly summarized things sir. Giannis to ATL just makes too much sense.

 

[timtonymanu]

This thread reeks of spurstalk.

Not enough “Thanks chatimvp!” anytime he posts something.

 

[scott]

I'm pretty open about my disdain for Antetokounmpo. He'd instantly rise to the top of my most-hated Spurs of all time if they trade for him. So I'm REALLLLY hoping they aren't actually talking with the Bucks. I don't think anything about this year should encourage the Spurs to be trading their depth or future assets for a win-now player. So many fans of other teams are salivating over the idea of a Fox/Giannis/Wemby when the team should be focusing on getting a roster that makes the Fox/Wemby duo work the best and create an environment to develop Castle, Harper and Bryant.

So for me, all firsts and rotation players really aren't on the table. That might change as we approach the deadline. But the team is legit seeing what they have when they're actually letting their guys win. I'm glad the team didn't pull a bigger trigger leading up to this, because we're seeing what Vassell, Champagnie and Johnson actually look like on a serious team, and they look about as good as we could have hoped. It would be nice to see how they and everyone else look in the playoffs before deciding that they aren't good enough.

It's really hard to see the Spurs winning this year, regardless of any trades. The first and second rounds are already realistic goals as is. So they should stick with their plan rather than derailing themselves in hopes they injured stars can carry a depleted roster into the WCF or Finals.

I’m mostly interested in trades around the fringes. Can we add some useful front court depth, kind of moves. Something using SRPs as the centerpiece. You’ve always been good at finding those kinds of moves, so I look forward to what opportunities might avail themselves as we head to the deadline.

I also just want to see what this team looks like this season and into the first few rounds of the playoffs. We’ve yet to even see a single game of our Big 4… and I don’t think that can be stated enough for folks.

 

[Corso]

No doubt theres fire - just saying I don’t think it’s a complete “lock” that it happens this season. But no one should be shocked obviously if it does.

DPG?!

Awesome. We are nearly complete now.

 

[scott]

A new snippet from Jake Fischer and Stein:

“
The Spurs, though, might not be the automatic Giannis destination they are routinely painted to be. Just as the Bucks were unwilling to entertain Giannis trade inquiries before last June's draft, various sources with knowledge of San Antonio's thinking staunchly maintained that the Spurs were thoroughly unwilling to surrender the No. 2 overall pick that became Dylan Harper. They were also equally against the idea of parting with Stephon Castle, too. Even for Giannis.

There has been little indication to date that the Spurs are any more willing now to consider parting with their prized young guards.”

Brian Wright, basically: “Look, if you want to give us Giannis… we’ll see if we can make it work…”

Love it, and the proper approach that’s been working for us on this rebuild.

 

[scott]

No doubt theres fire - just saying I don’t think it’s a complete “lock” that it happens this season. But no one should be shocked obviously if it does.

Glad you finally found your way here!

 

[SpursBills]

The other issue with torching your depth and breaking up your core for Giannis is that you're putting a ton of pressure on winning in year 1. 31 year old Giannis who's already been injured a few times, has an athleticism based game, and has, what, maybe 3 more years optimistically at an all-NBA level? So it's basically a 4 year window, except the first year is this season where you're trying to incorporate a ball-dominant piece mid-season with no chemistry or training camp into a team that already has some questionable spacing, and you're probably giving up a decent number of your shooters / role players who already know the system to do so. So now it's probably more like a 3 year window.

You're also really leveraging how long Giannis can sustain an all-NBA level. If all of a sudden that 3 years becomes 2 because of health, you've cut your championship window down by a third. Even then, I'm not convinced that team beats an OKC team with all their depth 1-12.

Finally, I'm not sure how I feel about Wemby's development when you have him lean into his worst offensive tendencies where he's just jacking 3s out on the perimeter to provide spacing for Giannis to get to the rim. It seems like if you want Wemby to reach his full offensive potential, you need to give him the space to work both on the perimeter and in the paint, and Giannis eats up a ton of that space.

 

[DPGSpurs]

DPG?!

Awesome. We are nearly complete now.

 

[spursparker9]

Added the poll

 

[DPGSpurs]

Glad you finally found your way here!

Appreciate it - hope to post a little more on the forum vs solely on X

 

[ginobilized]

I'd really rather see the Giannis post-game prayer circle somewhere else, in addition to not wanting him here.
Brian Wright will hopefully barnacle onto some other trades at the deadline and get us a couple of front court playoff upgrades at a minimum cost. That seems to be his super power. That's all this team really needs. As someone stated somewhere our Big 4 of Wemby/Fox/Castle/Harper have yet to play 1 game together,

 

[Itzsoweezee]

Giannis is too injury prone the last few years. I think there’s a very good chance he misses a lot of the playoffs, again, on whatever team he ends up on.

 

[STAT88]

Reaves + Rui + Vincent + Kleber for Giannis works in the trade machine.

Lakers could throw in all their available picks and swaps unprotected too. Think that’s only 1 pick in 2032 and about 4 swaps.

If Giannis requests the Lakers then that may be in play.