Analysis Any Mitchsuckers going to do damage control for these gutless worms?

tim_duncan_fan said:
How can you SPAM if you win all the fall/winter games?
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There's no TD, Manu, TP on this team. You can forget about that kind of stuff as it's not a Spurs team thing regardless of who's on the team, it's sort of an MO thing with the players the team had back then. This team needs to get wins anytime it's possible. Of course it's better to peak towards the playoffs like TD's team used to, but this team isn't anywhere near anything like that.
 
Ice009 said:
If you guys are taking a shot at Shmurs, shouldn't you also take a shot the Spurs for the same thing? Didn't she go for the Portland HC job a while ago (before Billups) and didn't the Spurs not give her a favourable review? Maybe I'm remembering completely wrong, but I recall the Spurs blew her chance at that job by not endorsing her at all to them.
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www.si.com

Report: Blazers' Background on Becky Hammon 'Not Complimentary' of Coaching Abilities

The Blazers reportedly didn't hire Becky Hammon as coach due in part to intel from the Spurs casting doubt on her coaching ability.
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Thanks for finding that Fabbs. I thought I read something like that at the time, and I wondered if that is one reason she left the Spurs.

I don't know how much truth is to what the Spurs said, but turns out she's a darn good HC in the WNBA.
 
Ice009 said:
If you guys are taking a shot at Shmurs, shouldn't you also take a shot the Spurs for the same thing? Didn't she go for the Portland HC job a while ago (before Billups) and didn't the Spurs not give her a favourable review? Maybe I'm remembering completely wrong, but I recall the Spurs blew her chance at that job by not endorsing her at all to them.
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I’m not sure if the spurs gave an unfavourable review but I did recall she was looking for a chance to move up the ladder and that chance was minimal with pop being there.
 
Ice009 said:
There's no TD, Manu, TP on this team. You can forget about that kind of stuff as it's not a Spurs team thing regardless of who's on the team, it's sort of an MO thing with the players the team had back then. This team needs to get wins anytime it's possible. Of course it's better to peak towards the playoffs like TD's team used to, but this team isn't anywhere near anything like that.
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Well it stretched all the way back to the admiral days. I remembered one year those admiral spurs went something like 16-0 during March or something crazy (then fall apart in the playoffs)
 
Since the Spurs supposedly tanked Becky's chances in POR, she's attended multiple Spurs games sitting courtside with Tony and other Spurs execs and relentlessly praised Pop in her HOF acceptance speech. If there is bad blood, Becky sure hides it well.
 
ambchang said:
I’m not sure if the spurs gave an unfavourable review but I did recall she was looking for a chance to move up the ladder and that chance was minimal with pop being there.
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That's why it doesn't make sense. She wasn't trying to get the Spurs job. I really do wonder if it's true or not. Maybe he work ethic wasn't the best with attention to detail the Spurs like to do, but maybe that article is also BS and they didn't bad mouth her at all.

ambchang said:
Well it stretched all the way back to the admiral days. I remembered one year those admiral spurs went something like 16-0 during March or something crazy (then fall apart in the playoffs)
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Didn't know that, thought it started in the TD days. I actually thought it started after '99 when the Spurs became a perennial playoff team/contender that they didn't take the start of the regular season as seriously anymore, and sort of focused more on winning games at the end of the season and playoffs.

scott said:
Since the Spurs supposedly tanked Becky's chances in POR, she's attended multiple Spurs games sitting courtside with Tony and other Spurs execs and relentlessly praised Pop in her HOF acceptance speech. If there is bad blood, Becky sure hides it well.
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I remember reading it years ago and I wonder if it's actually correct or false because of what you said. I do remember Becky throwing tons of praise towards Pop in her HOF speech. You're right about that as I did watch it. Maybe someone didn't want her being hired as an NBA head coach and put out false information? But if someone did release false information to make her look bad, I assume the Spurs would have refuted it?
 
Ice009 said:
That's why it doesn't make sense. She wasn't trying to get the Spurs job. I really do wonder if it's true or not. Maybe he work ethic wasn't the best with attention to detail the Spurs like to do, but maybe that article is also BS and they didn't bad mouth her at all.



Didn't know that, thought it started in the TD days. I actually thought it started after '99 when the Spurs became a perennial playoff team/contender that they didn't take the start of the regular season as seriously anymore, and sort of focused more on winning games at the end of the season and playoffs.



I remember reading it years ago and I wonder if it's actually correct or false because of what you said. I do remember Becky throwing tons of praise towards Pop in her HOF speech. You're right about that as I did watch it. Maybe someone didn't want her being hired as an NBA head coach and put out false information? But if someone did release false information to make her look bad, I assume the Spurs would have refuted it?
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Just to assure I’m not suffering from old age dementia, I went look it up:

95-96 was when they went 16-0 in March. Which I recalled set an nba record for best march record ever. They actually closed the year going 22-5 for a 67 win pace in a year they finished 59.

94-95 season when they won 62 games, the spurs went 31-4 (73 win pace) in the final 35 games starting mid feb. Looking back I think this is the year where that SPAM thing started.

93-94 didn’t fare well, starting March they only went 15-11 to close the season on a 47 win pace in a season they won 55 games.

92-93 was even worse, 14-15 to close the season when they won 47 games that year.

91-92 was when big Dave broke his wrist to end the year.

90-91 they closed on 20-9 on a 57 win pace on a 55 win season. So not that big of a deal.

89-90 they closed on a 19-8 run for a 58 win pace in a season they won 56 games.
 
Let's keep the engine running on this thread for tonight.
 
Ice009 said:
There's no TD, Manu, TP on this team. You can forget about that kind of stuff as it's not a Spurs team thing regardless of who's on the team, it's sort of an MO thing with the players the team had back then. This team needs to get wins anytime it's possible. Of course it's better to peak towards the playoffs like TD's team used to, but this team isn't anywhere near anything like that.
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Gotta restart the tradition!
 
The 3-10 Kings, the ones that got assfucked into permanent rectal prolapse by the pathetic Hawks, are only down 9 to the Spurms with under 5 minutes to go.
 
rogcl1 said:
Pure clickbait BS.
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Why?

And what are your sources?
To be clear, i don't know if the article is accurate for a fact or not.
You certainly don't either.
Prove otherwise.
 
jeebus said:
The 3-10 Kings, the ones that got assfucked into permanent rectal prolapse by the pathetic Hawks, are only down 9 to the Spurms with under 5 minutes to go.
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WWW.
Without Wemby Win.

It's good if it was vs Brooklyn Jr. High.
 
Fabbs said:
Why?

And what are your sources?
To be clear, i don't know if the article is accurate for a fact or not.
You certainly don't either.
Prove otherwise.
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He doesn’t need sources. You don’t provide a source for something you believe isn’t real. He’s not making the claims that the article is making. Which are completely unsupported. Citing “sources” while actually citing nothing is pretty much the definition of clickbait BS. This article offers no evidence. None.

There’s nothing around this situation that substantiates the claim and it has had zero impact on Becky’s relationship with our organization and its players past or present which speaks a lot louder to this article having no credibility.

Nothing ever came from these claims.
 
The coaches came out of the gate pretty strong so I don't think they've gone "full retard". But I do think teams have adapted to the Spurs and we haven't adapted to that.

I see a lot of really stupid mistakes out there and I can't tell if it's from teammates who just don't know each other yet. Or maybe we just have some players who are really bad passers. Castle keeps making some of the most idiotic turnovers I've seen in awhile. I expect that from Jeremy learning his limits. Anyway. Lots of ins, lots of outs.
 
spursistan said:
I need some nasty from Mitch. He comes off like a good puppy in interviews and does not even attempt to work the referees and call their bullshit. Look at Will Hardy (the one that got away) here.. You need to be mean and crude sometimes

https://twitter.com/x/status/1990260977246601695
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I noted this in the NBA thread in the other sports forum... absolutely absurd. Draymond is allowed to mock refs relentlessly, meanwhile a ball boy in Utah gets a tech for taking too long to wipe up sweat off the floor. Fucking absurd.
 
scott said:
I noted this in the NBA thread in the other sports forum... absolutely absurd. Draymond is allowed to mock refs relentlessly, meanwhile a ball boy in Utah gets a tech for taking too long to wipe up sweat off the floor. Fucking absurd.
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Stern Jr. has been a pathetic influence on the integrity of the game.
 
scott said:
Since the Spurs supposedly tanked Becky's chances in POR, she's attended multiple Spurs games sitting courtside with Tony and other Spurs execs and relentlessly praised Pop in her HOF acceptance speech. If there is bad blood, Becky sure hides it well.
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Yeah, just more internet nonsense. Pop won't even slam the nephew who actively fucked him and all of us over, but he's going to slam Becky?

Sure...
 
The Truth #6 said:
The coaches came out of the gate pretty strong so I don't think they've gone "full retard". But I do think teams have adapted to the Spurs and we haven't adapted to that.

I see a lot of really stupid mistakes out there and I can't tell if it's from teammates who just don't know each other yet. Or maybe we just have some players who are really bad passers. Castle keeps making some of the most idiotic turnovers I've seen in awhile. I expect that from Jeremy learning his limits. Anyway. Lots of ins, lots of outs.
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It's a franchise that has been in tank mode for 7 years and is just now coming out of it with a team full of mostly very young players under 25 with no winning experience at this level.

That's not going to be an exponential, linear transcendence to title contender.

They're going to show improvement, regress, figure some stuff out, then start the improvement cycle over again.

This season is about learning to win the games they should win, which they've done very well early, and start learning to close games against the best teams in the league. Then make the playoffs and get playoff experience. That's it. Expecting anything more than that is foolish and wishful.

On one hand you can say it took Curry going off the reservation in back to back games for the Warriors to barely beat them. On the other hand you can say the perimeter defense is so bad that old Curry was able to go bonkers for nearly 100 pts total in back to back games and beat them.

Perimeter and total team defense becoming consistently good is the next step.
 
wemvp said:
Yeah, just more internet nonsense. Pop won't even slam the nephew who actively fucked him and all of us over, but he's going to slam Becky?

Sure...
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And therein lies the problem with this kind of "reporting". Assuming it is accurate that the "Spurs were not complementary of Hammon", what does that necessarily mean? Technically anyone at any level of the Spurs org chart from the janitor on up could've said something negative to fulfill that headline. Becky was with the Spurs for many years, it is a fair assumption that like any job there were people that she got along with and people that she didn't.

The other possibility is interesting as well: what if the Blazers just wanted to go with someone else and they decided to have a team mouthpiece run cover for them declining to hire a woman? In a liberal/progressive bastion such as Portland, perhaps they were concerned about blowback by going with the old guard (Chauncey lol, great decision) instead of making history by naming the first female head coach in the NBA. Simply saying her references didn't check out is an easy way to assign blame elsewhere.

Total speculation obviously, but I do not believe Pop or RC or BWright spoke negatively of her. Someone lower than them? Perhaps. If she was legitimately a dud I would hope she wouldn't have lasted 7 years.
 
dn0774 said:
And therein lies the problem with this kind of "reporting". Assuming it is accurate that the "Spurs were not complementary of Hammon", what does that necessarily mean? Technically anyone at any level of the Spurs org chart from the janitor on up could've said something negative to fulfill that headline. Becky was with the Spurs for many years, it is a fair assumption that like any job there were people that she got along with and people that she didn't.

The other possibility is interesting as well: what if the Blazers just wanted to go with someone else and they decided to have a team mouthpiece run cover for them declining to hire a woman? In a liberal/progressive bastion such as Portland, perhaps they were concerned about blowback by going with the old guard (Chauncey lol, great decision) instead of making history by naming the first female head coach in the NBA. Simply saying her references didn't check out is an easy way to assign blame elsewhere.

Total speculation obviously, but I do not believe Pop or RC or BWright spoke negatively of her. Someone lower than them? Perhaps. If she was legitimately a dud I would hope she wouldn't have lasted 7 years.
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All good points, and I think you're onto something about maybe the Blazers not wanting to hire a woman so they floated this article out there, but if these were completely false about the Spurs not backing her, wouldn't they come out and have said that those reports are completely false?
 
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